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I’ve been fired for performance once and insubordination twice. Most employers will only confirm your dates of employment, title, maybe salary. Saying anything else opens them to a lawsuit. That said, I know the ECD who canned me for insubordination talked shit about me to at least one recruiter, so I’d recommend not putting it on your resume at all if that’s a possibility.
Actually CD 1, you are wrong. There are three questions they can legally ask and get responses too. 1) did said person work at you agency in this position/ title 2) dates said person worked 3) is this person available for rehire at your organization. The last one lets them know if you were laid off ( rehirable) ie let go for cause (not rehirable).
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Been fired twice. It's a relationship, they don't all work out.
Generally people really like working with me so I've managed to hop roles through references. One day I may have to explain it, or maybe I'll just take the turds off the resume.
I guess my point is don't let it bother you, it happens, and there are options to hide it if you want!
If you were at your former company for more then a year you probably can’t avoid putting it on your resume , but if you were there for less then 6 months I’d consider not mentioning it.
The good news is that your former employer can’t say much about this to any future employer - they can only verify employment dates and title. You own the narrative as to why you parted ways - perhaps there was a bad vibe on your team or a reducing client budgets that made a team switch impossible. Maybe you and a manager didn’t get along or you were really overworked which can lead to burn out and poor performance - you own this narrative. Some of the hiring managers you’ll speak with may have also been fired for performance in their past - it happens ! Sometimes we’re put in situations that we can’t succeed in and that builds humility/perseverance and can be a wonderful learning experience that employers should value.
References will also be pretty important here as you’ll want former coworkers (if you can a former boss or two) to be able to speak positively about your performance and their experience working with you. If you have people who would gladly give you a great professional reference - you’re in a good position .
Good luck !
That’s very helpful, thank you! There were some objective obstacles that made performance difficult that I can be upfront about, and there are certainly people who’d put in a good word for me. Honestly this helped a lot — thank you!
Was it for performance or something nefarious?
Performance.
On some applications they ask about your most precious experience and if they can contact them, can’t you just say no?
I imagine that’s like saying “no, you can’t see my diploma.” Might raise more problems than it solves.
If you decide to pull it off your resume, I know someone who went freelance and then on the resume just increased the range that they were freelancing. I don’t know how they could verify that. It’s not like staff.