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Anyone from EYP…I’m applying to “Strategy & Transactions Working Capital Consultant/Senior”. I have the experience, six sigma, PMP etc stated in the description. How can I proactively position myself to earn the interview? I’m afraid I might get auto rejected because I have way more than 2 years experience, but I know industry experience is weighted different. Appreciate any help, insight, or anyone willing to chat. EY-Parthenon
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Hi Fishes, Any senior staff engineer here, role associate project manager at Nagarro. I would like to know more details about project allocation and work you do. I recently got selected as one. I can see a lot of heat from developers against nagarro here but what about mid level management such as associate project manager!??
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Two reasons I can think of that this happens a lot. First, if you apply online (vs referral), it goes into a bucket for a recruiter to go through. If 50 or even 20 or more people meet basic criteria, the recruiter may just choose 5 of them to send forward to the hiring manager.
The other is that recruiters don’t know enough to write or edit the job description - and if they did, they wouldn’t want to spend the time. Hiring managers also rarely have the time to perfect it if it’s not way off. A company I left years ago is still using the one I wrote. But they will tell the recruiter what they’re looking for. So you may match the JD’s stated requirements, but maybe not the hiring manager’s verbal preferences to the recruiter. Like ideal previous experience, companies to recruit from, etc.
I will say though that while you won’t usually have a high response rate to applying online, it shouldn’t be zero. It’s still worth it, just be realistic and do what you can to make sure the right keywords are in your resume and application, if you go through a greenhouse form or something.
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I have to LOL. I recently went through 5 rounds of interviews to then get 👻
I had 7 rounds with one agency and then nothing!
I’m having the same experience. LinkedIn applications are black holes. It’s not a surprise though because everyone I see getting jobs is getting them through a connection. I’ve decided to spend less time responding to postings and more on networking, which requires creativity in a pandemic.
I have LinkedIn premium too. you won’t get cut off when searching for people. The only problem is you only get enough credits for 5 inmail messages, so any extra, you have to pay $10 per message. When I run out (happens early every month) I just rely on connection requests, leaving to everyone a super short intro with my link.
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1) you may be overqualified/over budget.
2) it may be a loaded search - there’s already a candidate they have in mind
3) it may be a pipeline posting - for recruiters to build their base for when they do have searches.
wanted to chime in that i recently got a job offer thru linkedin cold applying. it does happen!!
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It is way more likely that a human being is making these choices (either filtering applicants out or just prioritizing based on qualifications relative to the field). Sometimes the field is just really big and competitive. And sometimes, as someone mentioned upthread, the posted job description is a default template but the really differentiating qualifications are discussed behind the scenes between hiring manager and recruiter. With so much invisible to the applicant, it’s just really hard to know how you stack up against other candidates - not against the posted job description.
Same, BUT.
I’m also amazed how I get so many interviews to jobs I didn’t apply for via LinkedIn
If it’s important to you, you could hire someone to look at your resume and help you edit it (it might already be great, this is just one thing you might try). I’ve looked at so many resumes that I’m basically spending 30 seconds max with them during my first review. 30 seconds to decide if you go into the “second look” or “no” pile isn’t a lot of time and many hiring managers are spending more like 10 seconds per resume for the first review.
try reaching out to someone, it doesn’t always work but it can sometimes do the trick
It be like that sometimes.
If you're up to it, I would recommend actually posting yourself on LinkedIn as a status that you're looking for a job and ask for help. Make it human, and also say what you're looking for, what you have to offer, and what you're passionate about. Use a couple of the job-finding hashtags like #jobseeker or whatever they are these days. After 6 months of job-seeking at the start of the pandemic, chock full of unsuccessful searches and getting ghosted and rapidly dwindling self-esteem, I finally did this. I was blown away by the responses I got, from people in my network who I hadn't spoken to for years connecting me to recruiters they knew to 2nd connections reaching out with open roles at their companies and offering to chat with me. It was incredible. I had a new job less than a month later.
I always remind myself that you have no idea what’s going on with the role. At a previous job, I was a contractor and my position converted to full time. They still had to post the job on the careers site and went as far as to do HR phone interviews with some candidates, even though my manager declined to interview anyone bc it was always going to be my job. I was so annoyed for anyone who saw the position, got excited,
and spent time tweaking their resume/CL to apply for a job opportunity that never even existed.
You are likely not being seen by a real human, or if you are, if you’re not virtually first in, they’ve already seen enough generally qualified resumes to send to hiring manager.
Having hired in several big holding co agencies, the first scenario is not one I’ve ever seen (every application does get seen by a real person, though that person might not be the decision maker and they might not be reading super closely). The second scenario is a lot more common; some jobs are just really competitive and attract a very qualified field and lots of referrals so there’s no need to interview people who are on the cusp at all.
I freelanced at this agency on and off for 6 months and in that time they posted a job on LinkedIn and then reposted it, and I applied both times, never got a response. Obviously qualified enough to do the job as a freelancer!
And yes I know I should have asked one of my CDs to recommend me to the hiring team but I probably didn’t care enough at the time
This is a employer’s market - there are more qualified candidates and few openings. HR and recruitment agencies are notorious for ghosting candidates. Unfortunately, there's not a lot candidate can do in this economic depression. Keep applying and reaching out to connections.
Right now I’m getting one interview for every 20 jobs I apply for. It’s a numbers game. But you definitely improve your odds with a contact. Using LinkedIn to find people who work there that are in your network - or people in your network who know people who work there - is invaluable.
I’ve never gotten a job from applying online. Don’t think I ever got an interview. Barely received confirmation emails that my application went through.
I have had a terrible time getting interviews. The only times I have is when I know someone.