I’m at a firm as a law clerk not getting paid well in a LCOL city but I need experience.

It’s my third time taking the bar exam. My boss paid for my hotel the second time but not the registration fee. If he doesn’t want to pay for the registration fee this time around when I brought it up.

Should I reject his offer for me to work as an attorney over this? I find it to be quite disrespectful and cheap.

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You should try and focus on passing the bar. Most firms don’t give more than two attempt to pass the bar.

Your boss doesn’t owe you anything when it comes to bar fees, unless it were somehow stipulated in your employment contract somewhere.

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You can do better. Pass the bar and you will be much more marketable. Quit if you have to and study full time.

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You’re lucky he’s even giving you the chance to still work there after failing twice.

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I agree. But I’m trying to figure out if I should jump ship when I’m licensed or two-three years down the road.

Just focus on passing the bar exam. Then on your attitude. Once you pass the bar and get licensed then you’ll have more options.

Life is full of harsh truths. One of them is that most employers won’t have much respect for law school graduates who repeatedly fail the bar exam. And if they try to do something for those people they’d like the people to seem grateful for keeping them and covering some of the expenses associated with the exam.

I’m not trying to knock you down, only observing life as someone who was a mediocre law student at a 3rd tier law school but did pass the bar on the first attempt and still struggled to find work.

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I'm confused how you have a leg to stand on. Look, if you don't need the money sure, quit on your wobbly principles. But this guy has been giving you a chance when no one else has. Not saying you need to worship the ground he walks on, but you have proven you are a risk as you've failed twice (regardless of whether the first time was on his watch or not).

Yeah, I'm baffled here.

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I would quit because of the pay but I wouldn’t quit because of the bar thing. He’s been super generous about this particular issue, in my opinion.

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@OP - you get paid too low?! I'm sorry but you need to get a grip. Aside from being college educated, you do not have the skills, experience or credentials that warrant a higher salary.

If you sought a position outside of a law firm that requires a JD that'd be one thing. But you are seeking attorney pay without the certificate/credentials that commands the money.

Your pay, especially for a LCOL city sounds warranted.

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Bro you need to pass the bar I don’t know why he would be especially respectful when you’ve already wasted some of his money

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You’re very lucky to still have a job.

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Respectfully, I think you need to manage your expectations. My salary as a newly-licensed associate at a small firm worked out to be just under $29/hour. (Not necessarily a HCOL area, but a top 50 metro area so not LCOL either.) I’d have been thrilled to be offered $50/hour after passing the bar & I never considered that my job would pay for my bar exam costs. That may be a thing in BigLaw, but it’s not standard practice at most firms. I don’t think the issue here is your job… I think you might have had unrealistic expectations about how profitable/easy life would be right out of law school & reality isn’t measuring up.

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I don’t have good grades and no experience outside of being a law clerk for three years. I’m struggling to grasp whether this may be the best offer I can get even if you include state government or ID/immigration law

You've failed the bar exam twice. Your chances of failing again increase every time. The fact your boss still cares to bet on you is important. Maybe you are making less than an attorney doing the same work, but are you an attorney yet? No, no you are not. Focus on studying and passing. "Third times the charm." Make that true. Then go work hard and thank those that helped you get there.

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You're going to reject his offer of $0 to take the bar? Ummmm you're not going to get a better offer anywhere else...

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I think im more frustrated by how high I set my expectations with earning potentials with him. It’s getting to a point where I’ll keep my head down, keep working until the bar, and eventually leave

Trying to look past the prior two attempts. What is your honest opinion re: your work product? I know the bar exam is not everything when you’re predicting the future success of an attorney. Do you feel like you’re exceeding expectations for the assignments you’re given?

No im not. Honestly wondering if litigation is for me. Or maybe I should move to a different industry.

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