Related Posts
I got a remote L6 SWE offer at Google but the RSUs are too low for that level ($625k over 4 years), could not negotiate it higher. I’ve accepted the offer but trying to be hopeful that I could make it more equitable in the future if I perform well. Are stock refreshers based on the initial RSU grant or solely based on performance? Google
Pro
More Posts
My little ❤
Additional Posts in Law
Rising Star
Rising Star
What’s the word on Foley Hoag LLP?
Chief
What is the lateral hire process like?
New to Fishbowl?
Download the Fishbowl app to
unlock all discussions on Fishbowl.
unlock all discussions on Fishbowl.
Rising Star
WFH might exacerbate this a bit, but to be honest it was like this before COVID. Very common complaints in biglaw: no training, isolated and individualistic environment, and extreme stress, particularly for juniors.
I like WFH flexible. Work at office few days a week and then at home others. My hope was more guidance and team work once in the firm physically but it hasn't happened. We still meet on Zoom and it's isolated. No training, high expectations, etc.
Rising Star
I switched firms because of this. I was barely getting 20 billable hours a week for 5 months.
This is biglaw?? What year and which state?
I am a 3rd year, going into my 4th year and I always try and flag this for senior associates complaining about 1st/2nd year associates.
Me 100%. Older associates I’ve talked to about this day “well to be fair, we had a lot of this same problems.” And it’s like okay, yeah then imagine that during a literal pandemic??? Can you really not see how that would be worse? 🙄
I feel so discouraged and lost as a big law first year. I’m seriously considering quitting even though I have student loans.
Your first year of big law is by far the worst no matter where you do your time. There are also trade offs to doing your first year in the firm too.
My first 6 months was in an extremely busy team and there was absolutely no regard for my personal space. I was pretty much in the office to 11pm-1am every night for months on end. I had no contact with the outside world. Then couple that with a very highly strung, political team.
I could have done without all the passive aggressiveness and drama in the office, especially when I was already a bit broken from the hours.
I suspect that first 6 months would have been much better at home than in the office.
On the other hand, if you’re a first year and you aren’t getting any work or mentorship because of the WFH disconnect, that can be extremely stressful, almost debilitating. However, that’s on the team, not you.
My firm’s partners are concerned about this. At the same time, the feedback they received from the anonymous (other than as to class year) survey was that first years (~80%) wanted to permanently WFH.
Are you me? Exact same sitch
First year doesn’t really matter all that much anyway. Like it’s just a bunch of doc review/diligence. The most important thing I learned was familiarity with the document management system lol.
I really don’t feel this way in my group but we like to staff lean. I’m the only associate with a partner on most of my cases in litigation so I’ve had to learn every single part of it without an SA to guide. I get diligence too but def not mostly.
Absolutely. I feel like I haven’t really developed any skills. Unless bread baking counts 😂
Yes. I’m just glad I’m clerking next year, because I can’t wait to get out of here.
Rising Star
Nah. I love WFH.
I do not think my firm appreciates or cares how much deferring us with a measly salary advance and no health insurance affected morale. Then forcing us into the office prematurely. People are really unhappy.
Rising Star
What firm?
Long live work from ANYWHERE!!!