I'm leaving Public Accounting (yay).

I have maxed my 401k in 2021, however Crowe did not fund their discretionary match, I guess because of COVID?? (A good reason to leave, imo).

My new firm offers 6% match and immediate vesting. This is worth about $9k to me today, or > $70k at retirement with 7% growth.

Can I max out contributions at the new company to take advantage of the basic benefit they offer that Crowe doesn't (401k matching), and somehow reverse the Crowe 401k to avoid penalties?

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How much did YOU contribute in 2021? You can contribute up to $19,500 and your employer match does NOT count towards that limit amount. So if your contributions combined from old and new company for the year is 19,500 then you don’t need to worry about reversing anything and you can’t reverse it other than claiming it as income since it would be removed from box 1 of your W-2. I always just contribute to get the company match and then invest in my own personal Roth IRA.

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D1, just realized you don’t know what is being discussed 😂

Guessing on the math here, but I think if your new salary is 150k, this is only worth about $5250 to you, assuming you start on 6/1. Still a decent amount, but much less than $9k.

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You can do this. Just need to cash out the excess contributions

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Thank you! I think I will take this approach, I think it's worth the headache. Appreciate the insight!

You can't match your 401k transfer if that's what you are trying to say. Your matches are on your paycheck.

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The 19,500 limit is a per person limit per year.

You could potentially contribute up to your match at the new company and then have the excess distributions taken out of the old 401k before 4/15/22 but, this is not going to be fun from a compliance standpoint.

Op maybe check with your new employer if you can contribute post tax dollars to 401K and if the post tax contributions are eligible for match. If yes, then start post tax contributions and you don’t even need to worry about withdrawals and penalties.

I really am not in a place to put an EXTRA $20K away on top of all the other things j have going on in my life

I don’t l how Crowe works, but are you sure they just haven’t funded it yet? Deloitte only does one match a year at the FYE. They do it differently than the other B4 (as they do it each paycheck) so is Crowe similar?

If they pull out your contributions they need to pull out the gain associated with it. You can Google the IRS publication which explains excess contributions.

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