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Hi Fishes, Sometime back I was interviewed for Technical Support Job role in my domain. T1 went well. T2, in my understanding was better only (not great like T1 but not blunder. I felt it was nice and i replied majority of questions). They released the feedback after 10 days with "Not Positive". I am not totally sure with feedback as I replied majority of questions correct. I am being bit curious with "Microsoft" tag. What can be the reason?
Discussion appreciated.
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I don't see anything wrong with reaching out. If you do, I'd probably try to do it through a burner email account or something, not through your work one. That is, unless you know your current boss won't hold you applying against you. Then using the company email would be advantageous since it makes it obvious you already work there, which would increase the chances of them making a remote exception for you. Also increases the chances of your email getting seen vs. sending from a Gmail account.
The only thing is that my company requires us to tell our boss if they set up an interview. But my boss has been so supportive of me looking at different positions.
I think you should negotiate if/when they decide to extend an offer after they interview you. “Going through it all” is just something that comes with the territory. It’s better to get them sold on the fact that you are the right candidate and their best choice first. They are likely not going to say yes to you if you ask before interviewing because they have no idea who you are and have no idea how much value you bring to the table. But after they put you through the interview process, they may start to really like you and that may give them more motivation to give you what you’re asking for. You cannot ask for things or negotiate before you have any leverage. Get the leverage first by going through their process. Then negotiate.
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I guess it’s because I really am bad at interviewing. I get major anxiety. .
I cannot imagine wasting your time and energy to apply to a job that directly states its expectations, only to after being offered the job, try to negotiate it to be a completely different expectation. In THIS job market. You will be immediately fired and it will be like you never were even hired. They’re removing full remote jobs because companies want to get back to not hiring disabled folks/folks with no car. Soon there will be very little remote or hybrid options available. They won’t ever go away, but the boom that the M-F 9-5 crowd had has waned.
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Director - you have a good point. This is different though as I’ve worked for her over 15+ years in different roles. She’s also a director. But she’s retiring and invested in me and another colleague before she leaves. I hope to never experience what you’re explaining though. Thank you for your input. I’ll keep this in mind.
You could try but there was a memo released that hybrid and remote jobs are being pulled back to 4 in office days to allow better collaboration
I haven’t heard of this. But I know more companies want in office.
So my company banned remote positions besides sales but informally they are listing jobs as hybrid and accepting current employees that are remote for them.
That’s unfortunate. But I guess it’s easier for them.
do it, most of those postings are simply for the many geographically mandated RTO initiatives that companies are forcing upon employees regardless of position, tenure or role/work supported. Just know that you will have a better chance of being hired if you can actually relocate or rather fill the physical seat they need bodies for to fulfill “broader company initiatives“
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Thanks for the perspective.
It doesn't hurt to ask. I will say, though, as someone in HR, we don't bend on those requirements at all, even if it was the best candidate in the world. But it doesn't hurt to ask and see what they say.
Director - hire me please. Thank you.
I think I would apply if it would take me an hour or less to update my resume, write a cover letter, and submit it. If I got to the interview stage, then I guess I would need to decide what to do at that point.
It’d probably only take me 10minutes to apply, to be honest. I’m thinking about it. Thanks
I myself would wait to see if an interview was going to happen and then try and see if there is rm for negotiation. Also though, if this is due to some type of disability there is the Duty to Accommodate clause in this situation. A very short note from your doctor stating you have a disability. They don't and cant if they wanted to know anything about the disability
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Okay, but there’s also proof about how effective wfh is also. It’s not ideal in all scenarios, but definitely some.
Absolutely reach out. The answer to anything will always be "no" if left unasked. Be prepared before you ask. Dig into the job, the responsibilities and be ready to explain why you feel you can do it remotely. The absolute worst that can happen is they say no.
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Thank you for your advice. This job posting was reposted. I wonder if they’re not getting applicants or don’t like anyone that has applied.
Another comment; id weight out all the pros and cons on this one as well as I see its in a different state.
It’s the same company I currently work for. I’m just on a different team. But I don’t wanna move there.
Hybrid vs Remote - I am in a remote position now and its part time. Once the pandemic wound down, the office never really re opened. A couple of years ago, the CEO said that if you work within 30min of the office, you need to come in.
Thing is, no one else is in the office. No leads, no managers, very few warm bodies in other departments. There is logically no reason to have someone in the office these days, unless there is a direct hands-on reason to be there e.g. hardware support of sorts or client facing.
Hybrid is tricky. Upper management want to see bodies. They want to see those bodies being productive and earning their pay and not watching Disney+ or Netflix or even going through Amazon. They want their managers to manage and they typically like to do it by sight.
I would apply and ensure you hit all the right notes in that cover letter. If you have successful experience working remote, highlight that aspect. e.g. 5+ years working remote. Teambuilding or relationship management etc. I believe (NOT THINK) I will bring a positive contribution to the team working in a remote position achieving goals and successfully completing tasks efficiently.
ITSS1, I find it interesting that you were given "30 minutes" as the boundary. Where I am, most have commutes longer than that with traffic! Who judges this time lol? Google maps set to 8:30 a.m. or honour system? I've seen "distance" used before. 29 minutes or less would be a great commute!