Joined this company as a junior two months ago. I notice people are coming late and leaving the office early, and sometimes appear offline during remote days in Slack.

I had this idea of creating a ML tool for my boss that he could show to the CEO which would catch this kind of behavior and I think it would take only few weeks to develop. Would this be a fast way to get promoted?

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As a leader, I would be livid that you wasted your time doing this instead of creating something revenue-generating. It also shows lack of empathy- you have no idea what goes on in their lives.

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If you aren’t a manager or supervisor of those employees it is not your problem and you need to stay in your lane. Lackeys are not valued employees

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Fast way to get stuffed into your locker

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So true... is there such a thing as a virtual locker

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If you were my direct report, I would be forced to re-evaluate your workload, since you clearly don’t have enough to do.

No one likes a tattletale. MYOB

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It would save the company money for repeat offenders but it also loses employees, some of which have lives dealing with or around children. So in the long run, you would have wasted time focusing on saving the company a few pennies (1-3) for every dollar they hand out to those employees.

If the employees did this every day of every week within a 3 month period, yes they should be released. To admit my own fault, I was late everyday by about 10 -15 minutes for my previous company for each site (it was a nationwide travel position) and a profile was built around that. The moral I am trying to convey is don't worry about others, if the company has a problem with it or a standard and reputation to keep, they will take care of it, especially if it is done in front of the program manager - yep I did that and not proud of it.

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Is this a real question? It can’t be.

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OP commented down below and outed himself as a MAGAt. So that makes a lot more sense now.

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If it's this obvious to you I imagine it's obvious to managers. If they wanted to track it and stop this behavior, they would.

You're out over your skis. Your manager will look at this and see that you're criticizing them for not noticing/solving this problem themselves. You could go directly to your manager and privately ask about it but I see that going poorly for you, as well.

I can see your point and I understand why you think this would be viewed as a positive. But take a step back and look at it from someone else's perspective. You're telling them either that you assume they are unaware of something very obvious, or that you are critical of their policy to either handle it however they are handling it or to let it slide. From their perspective, neither makes you look like someone they would want to promote.

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No at all, it would be super inaccurate and wouldn't add any value, there are many potential reason for that "behavior" as a project manager, i worry much more about completion and quality of the work, than Slack status

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Bet you used to get a lot of wedgies when you were a kid.

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You're a villain lol

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no!!

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If your spending your time being hall monitor you’re obviously not doing your job. Have you heard of work life balance? What matters is that people get their work done on time and they should take time to take care of themselves. Such as going to medical, dental appointments. Pick up / drop off kids from school appts etc. it’s also possible that some of these folks are logging on after hours to make sure their commitments are being met. Why don’t you go and investigate?

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Coming from working in companies that have activity tracking programs like Hubstaff, Clickup or Zoho... I would say if you are SO concerned about it, ask your boss to implement one of those on the whole team.

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That’s micromanagement and toxic work environment vibes … people work flexibly. As a manager I don’t care if your lunch break was 50 mins instead of 30 as long as everything is done and maybe those people start early / finish late. Maybe they have short time arrangements as carers.
Shows that you’re a junior with little to no management knowledge.

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If you can see what your Co-workers are doing so can their managers. They may have arrangements in place that are absolutely none of your business, keep your nose out of it. Any senior manager worth his or her salt would frown on what you are doing, nobody likes a snitch.

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No. It would be good way to get your manager and co-workers angry with you.

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Keep your head down and jacked in. Nunya…

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First: you don't have the context or situational awareness to know why they come in late or leave early. Some have kids in daycare. Some have a sick spouse, parent, or child. Some complete their tasks despite this, and rather than sit on their butt looking at a screen, they go do something more productive with their time.

Your boss, has the responsibility for tracking his/her workers. The people you want to snitch on, have their own boss who may not be YOUR boss - which means it's NOT your boss's job to police up the other bosses.

You're tattle-tale attitude is going to go nowhere fast, and you'll find yourself looking for a new job in six months.

You want to stand out?

Do your JOB first, and do it WELL. Worry about doing other things related to your job next. Don't kiss the bosses ass. SUPPORT your coworkers. Don't LIE. Be EMPATHETIC. HELP others, but DO NOT let them abuse your help. If someone is abusing you - tell them DIRECTLY, to THEIR FACE, to pound sand and DOCUMENT the situation. If the company doesn't support you and allows the abuse to continue, quit.

That's all you have to do, and that's all you should do.

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As a supervisor I find this kind of micromanagement enraging. Do you really want to be “that guy”? Stay in your own lane. Do YOUR job in a way that will impress upon your boss what you bring to the company (that doesn’t include narc’ing on other employees) and that is your path to promotion.
No one likes a busy body, and that includes management. They don’t pay you to use their resources in this manner.

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What is wrong with you? LOL Probably a fake post honestly. I can't imagine someone really being this obtuse.

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Ok, narc

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simple rule as an adult, pay attention to your own work, what someone else does isnt your concern unless youre in charge of them.

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I sincerely hope this post is fabricated. If it isn't, my advice is to concentrate on your job. Spending time on something that could expose your colleagues instead of enhancing productivity is unproductive and reflects poorly on your teamwork skills. As a colleague, I wouldn’t find it enjoyable to work with you, and as a manager, I believe you would pose a significant challenge.

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