Looking for thoughts/recommendations, promoted last week to SM and finding it a bit offsetting that some of the SMs I worked with as a Manager tried to 1. derail or block the promotion and 2. are finding it difficult to accept that im a peer and no longer report to them, wanting to argue about immaterial items or trying to create random issues, things that the Partners and Client disagree with and have pushed back on because their happy/satisfied with my work, has anyone experienced this?

like
Posting as :
works at
You are currently posting as works at

Congrats! There seems to be a common denominator in the situation you are describing.

like

Tbh, you’re probably taking managed revenue from them now that you are officially an SM and now they gotta find more to maintain that level or deal with the decrease. Another reason for an SM to be territorial.

likehelpfulfunny

But also make sure that you understand what managed revenue you are getting from this engagement. There can be only one EM on an engagement code, so it will look like 100% of that revenue is going to the single EM listed in the system. If there’s only one code, work early to get a written agreement signed off by the EP and/or any other necessary account leadership of what managed revenue you should be getting credit for so you can communicate appropriately to practice leadership. Do not assume people have got your back.

(This is different than sales where you can have multiple SMPLs.)

likefunny

Thanks for the feedback, also for additional context, I’ve been operating as an SM on multiple projects for about 1.5-2 years and the same SMs have been with me since but were responsible for other work streams. When I communicated that im going for the promotion around March/April to get feedback on my case, which was mostly positive, is when the micro management attempts started and then I found out about their push back on the case during the due diligence process, the territorial piece is now making sense for sure.

I reached out to one of the SMs to go through the issue details and there wasn’t much feedback from their end, even the partners are not sure what the issue is.

Have a great relationships with the partners and clients on these accounts so im not worried in anyway, just found it curious that this all happened when the case was officially kicked off/submitted.

like

Operating as a SM for two years? Sounds like a bunch of nonsense lol

likefunny

Related Posts

Looking to pivot out of a top pharma marketing/ad agency and into consulting. Ultimately want to leverage both experiences to move client side or to a healthcare start up.

What are the best firms for this type of transition and why?

like

Hi ,

Anybody working for Telstra client in hyderabad on behalf of FRACTAL Analytics ?

Please let me know the benefits of working at Telstra client when your payroll company is diff ?

How the company benefits like food ,cab and leaves do apply.

Please do comment.

Thanks

Hello Fishes,
I joined Cognizant in July, but have setup my Goperform goals around October due to late project onboarding.
Will I be eligible for default hike after the new rules of appraisal?

like

I work at a ‘free market’ firm and have developed a very good reputation among partners. Naturally, they are drowning me in work. Each time a new case comes up, the partner will email asking if I have “time and interest” in helping. When I’m at capacity, I take these words at face value and explain why I can’t do it, and that seems to work out ok with no hard feelings. But what’s the “interest” thing? If I don’t want to work on a toxic tort case, do I just say that and pass?

like

What is your threshold for calling in sick? Nothing pressing at client, no deliverables, everything on track. Can push through, but very loopy from benedryl due to giant bee sting 😂😂

like

CTR, contracts and department overhaul

our marketing dept is undergoing a complete overhaul. under old leadership, a $75k 12-mo contract was signed to a marketing group that handles our SEO, blog and everything Google Ads. All things I can and am in training to do. Current CTRs on G ads seem pitiful at no more than 0.75%. My meta ads coast around 4-6%. During this overhaul, would it be wise to not renew our contract, and negotiate for me to take over these roles and leverage a raise?

like

Hi all
My friend is a fresher and is in an urgent need of a job in front end developer role
He has a good knowledge and project experience of react and javascript
Any help will be appreciated
Thanks!
Preferred Location - Delhi NCR
Immediate Joining

like

Would you rather get a 50% raise, or get the one that got away back?

likefunny

Hey everyone, I have my first interview coming for Project Management role at Meta. Any tips or recommendations? Does anyone know the layout of the interview?

likehelpful

My current project is going and soon transition will get started. Do i need to worry?? How can i get other project? Skills Azure PaaS, dotnet, grade :8

I keep making stupid minor mistakes at work lately presumely cause I’ve been so burnt out, and my senior is constantly mad at me, which made me want to avoid the dirty work even more… I really should care but is it bad that I don’t really care anymore

like

Hi Fishes Accenture , I need your urgent support / help / suggestion / advice🙏🏻

I have joined on 18th April, 22 as BA in Accenture .I have got a mail stating I have been rolled off from my current project on 19th.
I am very worried now as I am on bench. Request everyone to get me a project.
Exposure: Banking, Payment Card.
Thank you in advance 🙏🏻

Is it worth switching from EY GDS to hcl in just for months as there is no project and sitting on bench. EY GDS : CTC 23.5lac fixed HcL : CTC 28lac, yoe 9yrs Designation payments analyst. EY PwC pwc HCL Technologies

like

Any ZScaler Commercial AEs here?

Just got a call about a 96k base:
/160k OTE role out of Plano TX

I’m intrigued but I want to know 2 things:
1. Culture/WLB - how is it?
2. Realistic market opportunity/opportunity to crush quota (obv dependent on many things)

Background: Currently making 95k/160k OTE at a boutique research and consulting firm. I’m happy but we’re extremely flat with little to no opp for promotion in the next 2+ years.

like

Hi guys im a .net developer with 4 years of experience. I have worked in support project throughout my tenure and want to switch to development. I planning to switch so what are the skills that I should plan to learn and how should I go about it? Any suggestions are welcome and also if someone had any similar experience , it will be great if you could share it!

Thanks in advance

like

I’m relocating to the Charlotte area soon and looking for a new leadership role (hybrid/remote/onsite). I have over 12 years of experience in corporate management around Supply Chain, Asset Protection, and Project Management. Thank you for your recommendations and referrals in advance 😊

like

We are hiring for the position of Sr SEO executive who handles all the operation of the overseas client. If anyone interested drop a comment.

like
like

People on H1b. How have you managed your client travels pre pandemic? Does Deloitte do an amendment every time you start an engagement and travel to a different client location?

More Posts

Any producers from Publicis want to share what they’re making? Please specify whether integrated, executive, broadcast etc

A lot of people here seem to glamorize MANGA positions - good pay, and good WLB. There has to be a catch, right?

likehelpful

Howdy Sales Fishes - I’ve got an interview coming up and the recruiter prepared me by sharing that the interviewer may be low energy intentionally. Does any have a best practice for tactfully responding to this behavior or should I just persevere?

like

I am appearing for an interview next week for .Net profile. What should I expect in the interview Resume based questions or DS and Algo related questions?

like

Please help me with below

My DOJ is 30th Oct22

Post Photo
like

I had one of those VERY nonproductive days today. I think I accomplished maybe an hour of billable work, even though I had a bunch of stuff to do. I just came off a 300 hour month, and unexpectedly got a continuance on a deadline on Wednesday, and it’s like all of my motivation leeched out of me at once.

like

Anyone have blue light filter coating on their glasses? Do you see a difference in relieving eye strain? My vision is really poor and requires high index lenses making a pair of glasses really (cont.)

like

FAANG is now MAMAA (Meta, Apple, Microsoft, Amazon and Alphabet)…Whoa Mama! As if there weren’t enough acronyms in our lives. Happy Friday All!!!

funnylike

Okay, thank the stars this “estimated 9.2lb baby” was only 8lbs even. 😅

likefunnyuplifting

How much does a finance manager for 3 years earn in Deloitte SF? Originally from new york. With MBA and certified accountant.

like

Is the SAP practice in India at PWC any good?

like

Can someone pls explain the current designation hierarchy in mastercard like level 5,6,7 etc?

like

Quick question

expected CTS for 3.6 YOE as front end (react) developer?

like

Zscalar . Is ESPP mandatory to choose if mentioned in offer letter?

Hi everyone- I am looking for SDE role and would appreciate your support. Thank you in advance for any connections, advice, or opportunities you can offer

Technical Skills : .NET Core, Angular, SQL Server, ETL processing
Cloud Skill : Azure PaaS and serverless services, Cloud Cost
management, Cloud Automation and Data Management, FinOps.
IAC Tool : Azure ARM, Bicep, PowerShell
LWD : 29th Dec

A friend sent me this. Thought I'd share, but I can't attest to it's validity.

Post Photo
like

Hello fishes, I am not able to understand why D&A competency in TC is doing EPM implementation projects using Oracle. When there is a dedicated competency for Oracle ERP implementation. Anyone having some idea please help understand this.

like

Hi,
There was a recent opening for Assistant manager gear pumps design in Bosch Rexroth,
Did anyone get in?
Please let me know

like

Any recommendations on dermatologist?

like

Additional Posts in EY Senior Managers / EY-P Sr. Directors

Travel - didn’t see it unless I missed the thread. What’s the travel % right now for SM/P and does it depend on capability team or same % across the board?

like
like

New to EY. Are there any special benefits Senior Managers get that staff do not?

like

How has the path to partner been? What are the typical numbers / criteria you have to hit?

likehelpful

This bowl is exciting! How’s everyone feeling these days?!

likeupliftingfunny
like

Anyone knows what’s the base and bonus for a M2 in strategy and transaction - valuation? Trying to negotiate an offer next week. Thanks!

like

Rumours of mass defection if the split goes ahead. Who in this bowl is planning to leave? And if you're thinking of staying, what is your rationale?

like

Is it possible to get a job offer at a company that you reneged on a few years prior?

like

looking for some insights - EY Big Data Architecture SM compensation expectations and joining bonus? thank you

like

Can you please share the senior manager salary range in FSO -DET practice Dallas -TX area for 14 years of experience

like

Starting at EYP next week, got a question about independence since recruiter and external site isn’t helpful at all.

There seem to be different categories of restricted securities. Do I divest them all or only the ones falling in specific categories ?? Thanks

Post Photo
like

Trying to revive the dead bowl. What’s your raise and PBB?

like

Any director’s currently traveling 100% right now? If yes, how often?

like

What is expected salary for Senior Manager @EY Dublin Ireland? Looking to relocate, please help with your information, thanks EY

like

Anyone have any insight on base salary for a Staff 2 in the BC group? Got an offer the other day and was wondering if it was on the lower or higher end. Thanks!

like

EY-P work life balance

Do senior managers have an employment contract? what is the weeks of pay for separations (severance pay)?

likeuplifting

Hey Everyone! Can anyone throw some light on what the interview process looks like for Director level at EY Parthenon - Deal Management team? (experienced hire, non campus). How many rounds, case study or behavioral? Thank you.

like

What is the max salary to be expected at SM level in PWC or EY?

like

New to Fishbowl?

Download the Fishbowl app to
unlock all discussions on Fishbowl.
That was just a preview…
Sign Up to see all discussions
  • Discover what it’s like to work at companies from real professionals
  • Get candid advice from people in your field in a safe space
  • Chat and network with other professionals in your field
Sign up in seconds to unlock all discussions on Fishbowl.

Already a user?
Login here

Share

Embed this post

Copy and paste embed code on your site

Preview

Download the
Fishbowl app

See what’s happening in your industry
from the palm of your hand.

A phone with Fishbowl app

Scan your QR code to download
Fishbowl app on your mobile

Download app

Sign up for free to view this conversation on Fishbowl

By continuing you agree to Terms of Use and Privacy Policy

Already have an account? Log in

Sign up for free to continue using Fishbowl

By continuing you agree to Terms of Use(New) and Privacy Policy(New)
Messaging rates may apply

Already have an account? Log in

For account settings, visit Fishbowl on Desktop Browser or

General

Legal