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OP sour grapes?
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C1 - I’m going to disagree with you there. Engineering (or software engineering) is where we are given a vague idea and need to capture it in black and white called programming language for every probable and improbable situation. We never just deal black and white or given a black/white situation from a power point or document. It’s up to the engineers to fill in all the possibilities so that it won’t break.
Imagine building a bridge. Someone would say I want to make it from point A to point B over this body of water. It’s up to the engineers to make sure it doesn’t get affected by the wind, the earth quake, the weight, the tide, the materials decay, etc etc and nothing is just black and white where one you pull up a formula to apply it. If it’s that easy, everyone will be doing it.
In my experience (limited, admittedly) it’s because they don’t have a lot else going for them.
Somewhat accurate. We are myopic. Women often have a life.
I'm setting up a smart home based on home assistant after spending my day coding. This is who we are.
I'm raising wonderful children and have an amazing wife, so I wouldn't go as far as saying I have nothing going for me. But I have limited interest. The top two are Family and Tech.
Everyone thinks they know everything. Similar to how you think you know everything based on these observations.
I mean, OP’s comment isn’t wrong… only 1 in every 10 engineers are female. And when you look up the reason for this, some of the main factors are implicit bias in the workplace & lack of female role models (see the former). In short, women stay away from engineering (and other “masculine” fields of work) not b/c they dislike/can’t do the work, but b/c their male colleagues make it insufferable.
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Nothing wrong with knowing everything you're supposed to know as an engineer. Just don't be the a hole that blows off everything that people ask about or try to explain in their own way.
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I mean…that’s part of the job
To be a know it all ?!
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OP, I take it you are not an engineer, and work or socialize with engineers, and are miffed that they generally project their assumption that they are smarter than you. Is that the issue here?
Just a lot of male engineers in my life
This is what I’ve gathered to be fair on observations I’ve made
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It’s clear that whatever degree you have, didn’t teach much about critical thinking.
Who cares
I’m not claiming gI could jump into any desk job
I’ve been observing that male engineers tend to think they could
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I know a lot of engineers who are smart engineers. And that is the limit of their actual intelligence- practical, technical or emotional. But they don’t know that so they are just really, really obnoxious.
Actual smart male engineers don’t act like that. Those are the mediocre ones, I wouldn’t pay attention to those.
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If everyone could hack it, they’d have studied engineering. 🤷♂️
Rare and exceptional cases. Also, you’ve never seen engineers got laid off right, and it’s guaranteed that none of them ever will right.
Statistically speaking…
I’m one standard deviation from the truth
Just wanna say it's equally bad when female engineers don't learn this, trust me, a woman who thinks she's smarter than everyone is...
not someone you want to work for. For better or worse, engineers learn early that technical decisions fall to them and to make calls with surprisingly little supervision. They are selected for the job if they are good at it, often at the expense of other things. In hiring and firing the person with IQ will quickly surpass the person with EQ in usefulness - but he or she won't get very far if they don't shape up, and my most emotionally intelligent professor in college told us that - you could hear a pin drop. Key to the social and people skills of an engineer is to eventually learn how to excel and serve with care and respect and without putting others down. This is my profession and I also happen to be a male, just sharing my perspective. I understand OP is just venting.