Manger (SAE) & Senior Manager (AS) salary ranges at Edelman, Weber and W2O? Need some guidance on three offers.

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If you’re in healthcare you should be amping up these numbers - the market is insane right now and talent is so in demand. I’d say it’s 70-80 for a healthcare SAE and 85-95 for an Account Supervisor. Looking at the titles you’re using above those are reflective of W2O, who is known to pay WELL to get talent in the door. Note that what your healthcare experience is will impact the above - big pharma or in depth data/regulatory is worth more.

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^ agreed!

@OP I’m a bit confused by your comments - could you clarify if you’ve already got the offers/salaries in hand and are looking to negotiate or if you’re just anticipating the #s? Also is your background in depth healthcare / regulatory (eg FDA exp), and what type of agency (large, boutique, international, etc) you’re coming from? That could help folks in this bowl give you better advice. Also noting that my close friend was at W2O in healthcare and left due to culture not being super great, and lack of diversity, but that was a few years ago so may be better now.

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Haven’t worked at the Edelmans and Weber Shandwicks, but seeing these very low salary numbers — foreseeing future articles introspecting how horrible big PR agencies paid junior staffers.

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D2 - I’m sorry but 24k in Boston 12 years ago is miles away from 50k in nyc right now. I have lived in NYC, SF, DC, London, and Baltimore (so a sampling including most of the world’s most expensive cities) and have a significant chunk of my friend group in Boston and costs are vastly different between places like NYC/SF and Boston. Rent alone is incredibly different. I could probably afford a 2bedroom in Boston on my current NYC salary. Also, median income in the US is not a helpful metric to reference here when cost of living varies so much between different geographies. You shouldn’t be telling people to make different decisions you should be asking why our industry forces people to live the way you were living. Given the sheer amount of work and hours most PR folks put in, and some of the amounts we bill clients, it’s ludicrous to see the problem as folks’ budgeting and financial choices and not the industry at large failing to properly value labor and talent. I had multiple months where I’d bill my entire yearly salary for my firm and all I got was an extra thousand or so on my bonus. This kind of thinking and this compensation model are why our industry is so homogenous. It just perpetuates a culture where primarily white, primarily upper middle class to wealthy people are the only ones able to afford to intern/start out in PR.

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Location and specialty? Also, what level is your offer for at Edelman? SAE is not a manager role, AS is a manager and SAS is Sr. Manager.

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Echo this. The worst thing you can do at Edelman is go in at too high a level. Our recruiters are usually really good at making sure you’re right, but if not, it can result in failure quickly.

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As an Edelman SAE, I would recommend not skipping that step and refrain from taking too high of a salary. You’re still able to learn a lot and get a little slack as you grow, which will really not be the case at AS/AM. Think long term of what you want you’re next two or three steps to be - don’t pigeon hole yourself too early just for a couple extra thousand now :)

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At Weber, Manager is one title above SAE. We underpay our staff a lot btw... SAEs in NY get paid around 55k to 70k depending on if you’ve been promoted within or are agency hopping. Also, managers make around 70k here.

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God I’m sorry WS1 and various Es. I’m a bit inflated from starting out at a big name crisis shop before leaving for my current boutique doing financial PR, but when I was an SAE here I was at $85K—there’s better out there if you want to / are able to leave!

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I was an SAE T Edelman and got 68 but it’s not a manager role...

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Nope! My managers were account sup, account director, VP & SVP. I didn’t manage anyone

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I was manager level at W2O Group about 6 years ago and made $70k. With inflation and the way the market is now, I’d say you could fairly ask for more than that.

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Currently started at W2O as manager and making 90k. FYI i come from a diverse background with no prior healthcare experience. I asked for 95k, alas that was too high

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Thank you for sharing and data always makes bank! We can’t thrive without analytics. I’m a bit under 90k and I think it’s fair since I only have 4+. However, I do hope they provide good raises and bonus.

AS at Edelman making $85, but took a lot to get it. They underpay staff. Also it’s a tough place to work. Happy to discuss!

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London: AM is £30-30k. SAM is £35-40k.

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