Rolling off my current projects, I have 2 options: 1. Join the project which starts in a week but might end by December, looks pretty busy and would certainly have long hours; 2. Join the project that is still figuring out it's contract but is hopeful to start by first week of October. Project 2 has higher flexibility in the role I want and is a year long project. Haven't gotten great vibes from folks on Project 1. What should I do?

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P2 is almost as good as non-existent, as long as that contract isn’t signed

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Project 2

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Project 2, no brainer

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No guarantee that P2 is happening. “Likely to start in October” is PPMD speak for “there’s a 50% chance this ever happens”

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A bird in the hand is worth two in the bush.

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When do you roll off

Take P1 for now esp to keep your utilization up. For all you know, P2 might start up only in December and that would work out perfectly for you.

P2, Unless your utilization or review situation is so bad that you might get laid off if you miss a month or two of billing. In that case, P1.

D4 is right. Additionally, at the moment being on the bench given the current climate is unwise. I’ve had SMs and PMDs say “we’re hopeful to start by x date” only to have negotiations drag on another couple of months.

OP- it sounds like you know that taking P1 is the safe bet, but you really don’t want to.

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Just be utilized. Fuck interest for a bit.

Vibes are overrated too :) talk openly for ten minutes about working styles. Look at the proposal deck and see the style used. Ask them what they value. Be open. They will also either say yes or no after hearing you out

Another perspective - if it's a very busy project and you do decent work your snapshot might be good too

Whereas if it's a chill project you might need to go above and beyond to get a good snapshot

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