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Wanted to highlight Prudential Financial’s hiring practices. They rescinded my offer once I attempted to negotiate the salary. The official reason given was that I didn’t “sound excited enough”.
They then admittedly gave the offer to someone who was less qualified. There were other red flags throughout the job offer process that the HR team should overall be ashamed of.
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I am planning a switch so was going through some salary data for a software engineer. My ex-senior manager recommended me a website: Growceed.com which helped me a lot in getting clarification about a lot of things but I am in doubt whether the average salaries of software engineer mentioned on Growceed.com really that much in top MNC companies.
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Hey! Any Google folks know if it’s possible to negotiate fully remote if a contract role is hybrid? Personally, I don’t want to relocate and go to the office on a contract role given the current economy. Plus, I’m assuming contractors are the first to go in layoffs. I just think it’s a fair trade off if I’d be allowed to work fully remote. I’m also trying to have flexibility to manage my Airbnb business in a different country. Same time zone as the home office if I’d travel weeks at a time.
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After the first time I did it I felt a confidence boost for sure. Knowing they accepted what I proposed. I've also had times where I asked for a higher salary and they gave something in the middle of the range. It didn't bring me down, just moved right along.
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That’s great! How many times have you negotiated?
Buyers/beggars remorse.
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I can see that happening to me too
When I've done it I usually felt okay afterward. I've always gone in able to make a reasonably good case for myself, so I usually feel good about that. And it's like any negotiation, you know you're not going to get everything you want, but if you get part of it, that's fine. There was one time I did better than I expected, but usually it's a matter of being more or less content with what happened.
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That’s true. Kinda lowering the standard of what to expect might help us feel less stressed about the outcome.
it really depended on the role and the situation. all negotiations are unique. in my current role, i tried to negotiate but the recruiter said that the compensation team said that budgets were exhausted and they couldn't budge at all. i ended up taking a slight paycut in base but the RSUs were going to more than make up for it once they started vesting, so i accepted. but my total comp has gone up 30% and then 20% in the two years i've been with my current company so it was worth it.
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Oh that’s great. You ones at the bigger picture. It’s hard for me to do that. Were you aware that the raises were coming and going to be like that?
Pretty decent - was good to squeeze a few extra bucks out. It’s really dependent on how it’s handled - if they pull an uncertain response and whine about it taking money from others and messing up their budgeting (douchebag manager from early in my career), it’s shitty.
The tougher one was over a competing offer - loved the company and the role, but felt undervalued by leadership so looked elsewhere, got a great offer and resigned. All of a sudden leadership is falling all over itself to offer me something, my boss felt hurt because he planned to promote me but wanted to surprise me… it was an emotional roller coaster.
But it really didn’t matter. That was 14 years ago and that boss and I have both moved on to the same company where he’s 3 levels lower than me.
For me it’s a mix. The fear is there but also regret of not asking