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I’ve been considering going back to an IC role lately.
I can make more money as an IC and it comes with less stress since there’s not as much politics or expectation of emotional labor. I’ve also noticed management the past few years has come with more expectation to play therapist than manager, which is exhausting and I have empathy burnout and compassion fatigue.
Agree. Management has always involved listening to how personal needs and circumstances intersect with professional growth and serving as an advocate. It's part of the gig. But the expectations have shifted drastically, and managers are now often receptacles for all personal problems. Even for the most empathetic and caring, it's a lot on top of the work, and the impact (burnout, resignations) hasn't been recognized yet.
I read this just yesterday! I thought it was interesting, too, but people (including me) are prioritizing life over work! I'm no longer corporate ladder hungry as I was a few years ago 💁♀️🧏🙇♂️
This is me. I was laid off earlier this year and had been managing an amazing team of 15 people. I am a great manager and team lead. But when I was reflecting on where to go next, I had to either lean in HARD to climbing the ladder (given my level/experience) or hop off and look for an IC role. I found an IC role and couldn’t be happier. So much less stress and I’m making more than I was before. I can be present with my family, have fewer meetings, can work in front of my fire with a coffee and a dog cuddled next to me, and have space to think.
If the right opportunity comes up that involves management, maybe I’ll consider it, but it won’t be because I’m dying to climb the ladder. It will be because the pay is astronomical and the goals for the role are something I’m passionate about. But the pay would have to be SO worth it.
IC= Individual contributor.
But I am an independent contractor now.
I used to think a promotion meant less hours / less labor because you were able to handle the more meaningful decisions and set a path for those you’re in charge of. It seems now that a promotion just means you do more and more for relatively little extra pay.
Yea I don’t want anyone’s job above mine lol
Stress kills. Also, the salaries are lower in this economy. Roles are not defined. Ppl are doing 3 jobs in one. Titled as looking for a jack of all trades. Usually, means covering companies layoffs for Pennie’s & stress.
Meanwhile, directors - that’s it the Dodgers one isn’t that great Otani fucking wins his first year there you go that’s so great. Can’t say 2020 was a fluke so happy for you Tony sorry Rez sorry boys you you came to play and you played man very good very good executive directors above middle management. Those guys are getting bonuses off the backs of Frontline leadership managers. Managers who are stressed out, overextended, and told every day to do more, faster, and with less!
This is me! I had no idea it was a thing. A few years ago I asked to move out of a senior leadership role into an IC role. I'm never looking back. I got my life and my mental health back. It's not been without challenge. Being labeled as a quiet quitter is one. But for the most part I feel like I won and it's a huge relief to be off the treadmill.
I prioritized my sanity and health. I left my role to work for myself.
I’m a business broker.
There’s a paywall. Are you able to cut and paste the article OP?
Without being able to read it, this conceit is fairly common with Creatives in the ad industry. Once we become managers, we are less likely to be involved in the idea process. So just when you hone your skills and become really good at the job, you’re expected to stop doing it and manage others. It’s unlike specialized creative roles in other industries where you are just respected for your experience and paid more without becoming a manager.
*concept
Being new to any promotional status at all,led me to rush into the position offered without researching the demands of the position,the commitment of my direct reports,the equality of the position in regards to multiple people having the same title and the authority to act in the absence of direct reports in situations needing immediate actions,or actions preventing disruptions that can be addressed by my shift before it can affect other shifts. It's not that I would not seek promotion,it's that I would not seek this promotion and without me doing the background work necessary to see if it's the right promotion. I bypassed a chance at promotion once out of respect for the incumbent's second in command. From what I have learned both positive and negative,I will not repeat that error.
I'm on the fence. I would like to believe I'm promotable and it would be an honor to be chosen to be a leader within my company. But on the other hand, what's the benefit? I don't think moving to management would make me happier and the reason I work is to pay for vacations and time with my family. Managers at my company rarely get to use all their PTO. Based on that factor, I'm not sure moving up the corporate ladder in my current position is a benefit at all.
Great topic. For me, the money would be nice. The politics and questionable ethical behavior is what prevents me. Not to mention the lack of work life balance. It would have to be the right place with the right people.