TLDR: junior associates just don’t get it. When I was a junior associate I couldn’t imagine telling a senior associate on the day an assignment was due that I had other more urgent deadlines and I couldn’t get to their assignment. Are you kidding me? When we’re you going to communicate this? Am I supposed to just pick up the slack here and do your work for you? Our client deadline hasn’t changed. Was it just going to magically get done? WTF

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I just did this recently. Was swamped and totally forgot to do something for a senior and sent it to her a day late. Have you never made a mistake before!?

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@A22, so lying to your supervisor every single day about doing something you hadn’t done wasn’t intentional? Btw- that argument you tried to foist is called a straw man. “…when you have neither, pound the table”

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What year associate are you? I think you need to understand that a majority of the junior associates have a huge learning setback by the global pandemic. To mitigate this, I schedule 15 minute daily check-ins with my juniors. It allows me to consistently track progress on assignments and avoid a blown deadline.

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A13 Because the junior lied and said she was doing the work.

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Ah but have you had one who continually overslept while you were waiting for their docs to review with the client deadline in sight?

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Hope it’s obvious, but this doesn’t reflect all juniors. I’ve actually never had a junior blow a deadline like this. And I’m in my 8th year for context. Or I guess I can just tell myself I’m an exceptional mentor/trainer.

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Did you remind them of the deadlines? Also, a junior needs to managed in such a way that you have enough time to revise/redo the work. It’s not a great idea to rely on them to deliver final product.

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That sucks - it’s good that you built in time for yourself. I have had a very hard time relying on juniors, so I just do not do it anymore. It’s a flaw but keeps me in control of my cases.

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I’ll be the opposite, there’s one person who comes terrified and apologetic, this person sounds like a “better than thou” type who will try to CC a partner to pull a power move

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I mean - when I was a senior associate, the only person I had to work was me. If an associate had tried to direct my work as a junior - i’ve have told them to get bent, or prepare to be last on my priority list.

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What’s your effing point? Geez!

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OP: so what’s the final outcome?

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I've faced this situation a number of times and now have made it a habit to check with the juniors way in advance a couple of times about what is the status of the work assigned, what other tasks they are involved in and to let me know immediately if they won't be able to meet the deadline so I can manage the work accordingly i.e. give it to someone else, do it myself, ask other seniors if it's possible to shift their other deadlines or request the client to extend the deadline. This is irrespective of whatever the reasons for not being able to meet the deadline are (overworked, not enough guidance, wants to do the work but is really caught up with something, had already taken leave on a particular day and told me in advance etc.) Sometimes, juniors do get overwhelmed and genuinely try to do everything and are misguided by the planning fallacy (that it will take them lesser time to finish tasks than it actually does) and end up in a situation like this where they inform their seniors at the last stage. They are also learning so it's best to teach them to inform you way in advance if they won't be able to meet the deadline. But if this happens again and again, then there is definitely some problem. There are also some juniors who don't care at all about the work or the client. That's not acceptable. I understand the frustration that comes with getting to know this last minute (having experienced it myself), hence in order to avoid that and for my sanity, I give an earlier deadline and get status update from the juniors at shorter intervals and emphasise the need to inform me if it won't be possible to deliver.

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In other replies, OP stated that they checked with the junior every day. The junior lsaid she was doing the work. The OP gave an earlier deadline than the client deadline - that's why they were working over the weekend.

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*were. I mean -

Seems to be a common theme lately.

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