We’ll never be in this together until we realize that layoffs cannot be the normality in this business. Yeah this is a special time. But how come we’ve accepted to have layoffs all the time even when everything was ok?

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Most clients have not stopped spending. This is a shock doctrine approach by the holding companies to reduce costs, raise their share prices, so that they get rich at our expense. Yes the power is in the hands of the employees. We leave the holding company agencies and go start our own places, the clients follow us. if everybody learns to avoid holding company fees and sees, everything will go much better research advertising in the 1970s. Little 10 person shops sprouted up everywhere. Everybody was happier. Then holding company started buying the shops and consolidating them. Think Chiat day, amurati -puris, McCabe and co. Oh and a little ship started by two guys names Kennedy and wieden. You do not have to work at a holding company agency it’s not the law go find independent shop in your city and work there. If they can’t hire you, start your own. This is already starting to happen. The creative team from Peru who were working at McCann New York started their own shop this year , LC, and are doing great.You are creative people. Take control of your own fate.

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Most clients where? Your agency? That could be true for you then but it’s untrue of the industry.

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Uh I don't know about you CD2, but a lot of clients have cut spending. I've seen the balance sheets and the risk analyses. That's precisely what happens when money gets tight: marketing goes out the door first. Same as it ever was.

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They aren’t secretive. I’ve just never met a CD whose eyes didn’t glaze over during development meetings.

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Tons of clients have cut spending dramatically; Retailers, restaurants, airline, hospitality, events, oil,

No budgets= no work = no need for staff.

Should companies should keep employees even if no work. Pay you to do nothing. Take the margin hit. Report losses to the stockholders. Maybe. Maybe not.

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This is a special situation and ok but when it’s business as usual. Yeah the business is changing and bla bla bla but those who pay the most are always the creatives and never the top leadership.

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If the higher ups didn’t take all the profits as bonuses then they would have some money for a rainy day. But greed is a powerful vice.

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Not really higher up. Just in title.
Titles are free to give out.

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Of course it’s the norm—because of the nature of the business—it’s always changing. If you lose a $10 million account, there’s really no reason to keep the people that worked on that business. You can always go client side. I see more agencies keeping a core staff and using freelancers.

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Staff is based on hours which is based on fees. How would one scale staff down along with fees, other than layoffs?

How agencies make money, simplified version:

- by selling outputs or hours to a client

- subtracting the cost of those hours (salary/benefits) or outputs (third party vendor costs, etc)

- subtracting the cost of overhead (building rent, non-billable staff salary, trips to Cannes, paper, bonuses, in-house gym, taxes, insurance, etc)

= profit left over

= reports that profit to shareholders = dividends

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I was recently laid off and I am actively search for a new role. I am mainly targeting Business Analyst, ScrumMaster, Product Analyst, roles but I am open to others.

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Will there be layoffs at grip/dentsu? just saw that they’re folding the Grip agency brand 👀

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Hi Sharks,

I got an offer from FTD for permanent work from home. But i am not sure about the company.. Also the market conditions are bad too.. There are many layoffs from various companies.. Looking for suggestions..

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NDAs - signed my first one as a part of a severance agreement. thinking about leaving an honest review for this company, but unsure about the liabilities that come with this. (NDA mentioned no defamation) leaning on the side of letting it go, but this employer sucked BAD and i want others to know. ik its hard to give a straight answer bc it depends on the agreement, but wheres the line between bad mouthing vs your honest experience?

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It’s so nice that every agency laying off people, have those left standing (and other agencies) trying to hustle jobs for their unemployed friends, but there are also a ton of people who were unemployed prior to Covid...so no severance, job hunting lot longer, and not earning income for longer time...hurting even MORE due to quarantine.

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Hello, I was laid off last Friday as a Technical Program Manager. Any advice on what to do or if you know anyone hiring Program Managers / Sr. Program Managers / Technical Program Managers?

I work cross-functionally with 10+ teams in the org mainly supporting Product & Engineering to create and launch product features.

Any input is greatly appreciated, thank you!

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I heard UKG has fired many employees this year?
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Hey! Any Google folks know if it’s possible to negotiate fully remote if a contract role is hybrid? Personally, I don’t want to relocate and go to the office on a contract role given the current economy. Plus, I’m assuming contractors are the first to go in layoffs. I just think it’s a fair trade off if I’d be allowed to work fully remote. I’m also trying to have flexibility to manage my Airbnb business in a different country. Same time zone as the home office if I’d travel weeks at a time.

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Was laid off in Sept. Unfortunately we will be seeing many more coming. It's what happens in a recession. Unfortunately I now also have my age against me. Not in a mentally good place at the moment.

PROPOSAL: Can we start naming names with respects to layoffs, furloughs, and pay cuts? Knowledge is power, and the only ones who benefit from vague exchanges of info. are the employers. Thank you!

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Have a big interview tomorrow. The question I dread the most is about why you’re looking for a new job. The honest answer is that there isn’t enough work to go around at my agency and I want to get ahead of the inevitable layoffs. What’s the best way to tell them this? Do I just make something else up entirely?

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Has anyone working tech for a bank been laid off yet? Tech layoffs all over the media but no one is talking about developers at banks (who make up 1/3 of headcount in some cases)

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I started a full time in-house design job that pays extremely well. I barely have to work at all. This makes me very confused since I kept hearing stories of people working 60+ hr weeks as designers at ad agencies. I am not complaining, but I have this creeping irrational feeling that I’ll get fired for not working even though there’s nothing for me to do. Should i be making up projects or asking for more work? Or just chill out? I just feel very confused. Are a lot of full time jobs like this?

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How is the job security at Delta Air Lines ?
Do they layoff frequently?

HR had mentioned there were no layoffs at tech during the pandemic.

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It’s so nice that every agency laying off people, have those left standing (and other agencies) trying to hustle jobs for their unemployed friends, but there are also a ton of people who were unemployed prior to Covid...so no severance, job hunting lot longer, and not earning income for longer time...hurting even MORE due to quarantine.

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Asking creatives to work on a project with lots of award potential but minimal budget/billable time allocations. So the majority of the work would be done on personal time.

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