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Some postings are listed with ranges by the employer whereas others are estimates by the job board. Even Glassdoor does this.
But honestly, if the Recruiter was given a number to work with, it does not mean it is final. It just means it is what they were provided. I have seen green recruiters attempt to ask Hiring Managers for more leeway and get verbally slapped for asking.
Don’t get too worked up. First, you need an offer to negotiate. Until they extend an offer, their budget for the role is meaningless. But once they extend an offer, feel free to counter with a number you feel you are worth.
It sounds like the recruiter doesn't have a clue what's going on. can you get around them and talk to the actual hiring manager or someone above the recruiter?
Oh I get it.
The range is likely showing a higher cost of living. My guess is they didn’t make the exit or it is cross posted in multiple states. Likely a state with a higher cost of living tops at the +12k offered to you.
I have that same issue, only from the other side. I am looking to hire staff and I gave a range from min to max to the internal recruiters. Meanwhile, my boss talked to an external recruiter and did not provide a rate range and they ended up posting 20% higher than the max. My budget is set, but when I find the right candidate, I can prepare an agenda topic to request the compensation committee to approve an override to my department budget they set 2 years ago.
I would bring up the post and say the top end of the range shows X. I would like to know how I can get closer to that number. Im sure there’s a reason and I am willing to bet that recruiter doesn’t make the range nor have the power to approve more. They can ask but they are a messenger at that point.
This! Such a good idea
Apply through LinkedIn and via the company website. The recruiter is not being transparent.
I did not see the listings but I don't want to share. Well, maybe.
Bring it to their attention. Is the salary range listed on their posting on their website?
Is the recruiter internal or external?
If they're external, I wonder if they're accounting for their fee (approx 20%) so that the cost to the company is the same as using their internal recruiting. Seems a bit desperate and misguided, but external recruiting often feels like the Wild West.
External never works, I play with that.
tell the recruiter the TRUTH You saw it listed on for 12K more call him out they want you to be truthful so should they
I would try to talk to the hiring manager to see what the actual budget is….hopefully it’s just the recruiter not having all of the info
I think, i don't know what she'd say.
Here's an idea.....ASK THEM!?!
(Not that difficult)
Have you received an offer? If not, you could very carefully mention: "I noticed that a LinkedIn posting for this position lists a higher salary range for this role. Is there flexibility to align the offer with that range? I’m very excited about this opportunity and want to make sure we’re aligned." This will show the employer that you are detail-oriented (which is an important quality for many jobs).
However, if you've already received an offer, don't try to negotiate. Since the recruiter said that there is no wiggle room, you could lose the opportunity if you challenge the boundary. If you can afford to do so, take the job, and you can work toward asking for a raise after the first 3-6 months on the job.
It's hard to know the reason for the inconsistency, but stay strong, and keep job searching in case this opportunity doesn't work out.
I hope this helps! You've got this!!
I recently had a successful negotiation. Range was 74k-119k. I was coming in with 28 years experience. Their initial offer was below my expectation at 95k and I countered at $109k with a professional email explaining the level of my expertise and how little training I would need as I was extremely experienced and the value I would add to their team. She appreciated by candidness and met me more than half way at $104k per year and a great benefits package. I only emailed once. She came up reasonably after ai explained what made me stand out and she came back with a fair offer and I didn’t push it as overtime was an option and raises scheduled after a few months. So just be polite, please your case and be open to then countering you lower than your ask. Maybe ask a touch over your expectations so you have wiggle room but make sure you are bringing that value to the table and stand strong to that during your probation period when it’s time to put your money where your mouth is per sei 😜
Plead your case* not please
You can go on Glassdoor and look for the exact job in the same location/area or city and see what the salary range is for that job. Remember recruiters don't know everything, they may be making money on this job placement, the recruiter may have a deal with the company to be the exclusive recruiter for that company. You have to do your homework and check out other companies with similar jobs in your location to see what they are offering as a salary. lastly, ask the recruiter for at least $10k more than what she offered you to start with.
No way out without being a hypocrit.
Reciters are typically inexperienced entry level staff. Many have no clue what is going on.
Know your worth and push for it - frame up your value professionally and make your case
Research it on Salary.com and then bring it up to the recruiter that a mistake was made as advertised, and what it should be based on your research.