Why do “client dinners” always start at 8pm after a 12-hour workday? By the time the appetizers hit the table, I’m exhausted and just want to be at home with my wife. I get that relationships matter, but does networking really work best when everyone’s half-delirious over cocktails?

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Idk but that’s around the time I have dinner everyday anyway? Even when I meet up with friends after work it’s always 8pm. Would love a 9-5 but here we are.

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Suggest lunches

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Start the day later. I eat late anyway so I'd love this. I despise noon lunches. My breakfast hasn't even digested yet.

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To me that’s part of the point of why most law firms have unlimited leave. If you’re not swamped and have an 8 PM client dinner, go in at 11 and take the morning slow.

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I’m in house but at my last company there were team/department dinners every so often that were late. At my new company most of the networking is catered lunches but I have to travel more. I’ll be in Milan for a week this month and will basically be in meetings all day (albeit at a beautiful resort in the country) and will then have to deal with my US stakeholders as well.

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Because that's when folks are done with work? If you get that "relationships matter," then accept that it's a full stop after that statement.

But of course, only you know what your real priorities are. If you prioritize and value being a rainmaker and everything that comes with it, then these late nights are a part of life. If you value and prioritize family/alone time, that's totally fine too, but don't expect the same professional returns.

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