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Maybe if all these positions didn’t insist on being in office, they could hire qualified candidates.

I spoke to a recruiter who mentioned the remote jobs are a piece of cake to fill. It’s the in person jobs in small markets that are impossible.

The in office jobs in a major metro area are easy to fill - plenty of qualified people living in Seattle or Chicago for example. But sorry, good luck hiring for your Director level position in Dayton Ohio when your candidate pool is probably 1-2 people.

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My individual opinion: If I were a younger person I would steer very far away from accounting and law even if it meant taking a pay cut. In about 5 years AI is going to eliminate at least 50% of all acct and law jobs. They both have a strong dependence on identifying and interpreting rules, a sweet spot for AI. Me? Been a CPA for over 30 years and am very close to retirement, so I don’t worry about it for my career. But there will be a seismic shift in employable skills as AI ramps up. Think of it as ditch digging meets the backhoe. I only hope I get my retirement funds placed to take advantage of AI power so I am not roadkill like so many white collar occupations will be.

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Hi Marcum. In my early career I was an Information Systems auditor for an insurance company. Using 1980’s SAS Institute software on a mainframe, I spent most of my time writing programs to automate identification of potential fraud and other aberrations. Even with a naive rookie doing fairly unsophisticated pattern recognition, it put an end to several schemes and risk pools that were costing the company millions of dollars. With AI (with which I have been experimenting alongside standard Python) this effort would take days instead of months. As I struggled to apply some of the Python statistical functions, I found that ChatGPT would get 80% of the Python code written for me to perform fairly sophisticated analysis, even determining which mix of variables was most effective for analysis. It wasn’t simply the ability to do things faster. It was the ability to perform more meaningful analysis. It was eye-opening.

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Yet here I am on applying to my 20th job that I am over qualified for with 0 responses.

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moi aussi - only try hundredth

The only shortage that exists in the accounting world is a shortage of good (paying) positions

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Tell them to go pound sand. In some firms, they forget that someone who understands accounting principles can easily switch between industries. People who have been in a single industry are so narrow in their thinking they forget that what they see every day is not magic.

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Tax is worse, and I don't blame students when they have better choices.

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Tax people should just start their own companies way easier than audit to do

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Nah - it’s true.

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Give me the stats of how many foreign workers in accounting today vs. 5 years ago. Then I’ll believe you.

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Fill jobs because talent leaves after the firm won’t promote their own

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If that was the case all these firms wouldn’t be doing these mass layoffs

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I need accounting job please!

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Is that why we are underpaid and ghosted. I would think it's the other way but that's just me .

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It seems to be the case

Yes but the pay is so low

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I got a call this morning from a non-profit. The pay is so low.

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How much ?

Yet I have two master degrees and 5 plus years of experience and have applied for over 100 jobs and cant get an interview.

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I got that notification with 0 response last couple months at dfw

Classic gaslighting - make yourself the victim of a so-called shortage while you layoff staff when you don’t experience double digit annual growth. Stop whining

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