Any other single professionals getting tired of picking up the slack for coworkers with kids? Why is work-family more important then work-life balance?

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I am a father of 2, and don’t agree that people with kids should get any preferential treatment. It is up to us to figure out how to pull the equal load and balance professional career with family obligations. Just because I decided to have kids doesn’t mean a childless coworker has to pick up slack.

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It may also be fair to point out that most fathers in the firm have a wife who stays home or works otherwise flexible hours and therefore bears the brunt of childcare duties. As a mom, I have less flexibility because of my role.

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Why do so many people in FB ( and society) Jump down people’s throats so quickly rather than trying to understand their viewpoint? It seems like it is happening more recently ( without having busy season as an excuse for the frayed nerves). Sometimes it is okay to agree to disagree.

While I don’t agree with the premise of EY4’s premise of kids being used as an excuse, I have seen more validity in OP’s comment than many of you would think.

Over the course of my career I have seen very few people who would expect someone to not leave and take care of a sick child - but many would question someone who wanted to leave to take care of a sick adult family member or friend who didn’t have anyone else.

I have also seen people given slack to go to a PTA meeting or school play, etc. But when the single person needs time to take a car to the mechanic or take care of something for their home, someone will note that they were out and wonder why they couldn’t do it on “off hours” without considering that they have no one to split those chores with.

When it comes to a trip out of town - again many times the person with kids gets excused.

All of those things should factor into comp adjustments, bonuses and promotions, and become less of an issue as the industry truly embraces flexibility and work from home, the older generation retires and you gain more seniority and therefore control over your own schedule - but there are still differences.

Back when I was a senior I was at a firm where this was so much of an issue that i found it easier to call in sick than to take an extended lunch to take care of something. I never felt that parents there took advantage, but the partners definitely gave them flexibility that people without kids did not get. Needless to say I didn’t stay there long.

OP - if you truly feel like you get the short end of the stick regularly and it’s not just sporadic, and/or that it is endemic in your office, you should talk to HR, your manager or a partner. But before you do that be honest with yourself about whether they also cover for you with some regularity under other circumstances. Is it only one parent you feel you need to pick up slack for? If so, can you work with that person less?

But if this post was just a thought you have occasionally or the result of something that just happened, feel free to vent and have faith that the situation will even itself out and it’s not a “forever” thing- and in the meantime tell yourself that you are performing a kindness for someone that is making a difference in their lives. It may be small consolation, but it might make you feel better.

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:-) why should you get paid the same amount as me if you’re doing less work because you have kids ?

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Y’all need to relax, I’m applying this to those who just call it quits and expect us to do all the work because we don’t have kids. Not those who handle their work / have a flexible schedule.

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Just being honest... if people with families get preferential treatment, it's because a person's family IS more important than your bowling league buddies. Sorry, but it's true.

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PwC 12....you must be extremely bored during your WFH days if you are replying to posts from 8 months ago. That’s a lot of scrolling. Also very kind of you to “cut some slack” during a pandemic for the parents who are trying to take care of their kids all day, and homeschool, and work, and attend these stupid virtual happy hours all in the same day. Sorry it’s taking you away from your Call of Duty game.

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in the words of an accountant, what adds the greater value to society 1) your paycheck spent on what you want/need/desire today (period cost)? or perhaps an investment in yourself that will benefit ... yourself? 2) an investment in the collective future of the business of humanity (i.e. a child ... although it could be some breakthrough tech/efficiency, being an entrepreneur [birthing a business], etc.)? and although the assistance that professionals, like CPA's, add to the greasing of society's gears is helpful, it certainly doesn't measure up to a well raised adult that all of us here have become through the help of a parent.

Agreed that parents shouldn't be given special treatment, we asked for it (probably & hopefully), but I also don't agree that those that aren't parents should be complaining about them. if you had someone that depends on you so completely (not counting your pet), whether you asked for it or not, this whole discussion would change.

and for those out there thinking the parents/breeders/procreaters are the problem and are overpopulating your neighborhood, please stop consuming our natural resources, your being selfish.

... this is definitely only a post that can be made on a Friday night, so many facets to it, so many variables, such a scary path it can take

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Sadly GT2, I too drop thousands of dollars on schooling your and other kids, it’s called property taxes! The ‘victim class’ that I am in begins with that tax/transfer of wealth from childless to the breeders and continues throughout my career due to others’ use of procreation as an excuse to slack off. Besides, I am not commenting on cash flow but rather on the need for equitable workloads!

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Haha second EY6 - you all have too much time in your hands. Please get a part time job, volunteer at your favorite NPO , work on your dreams .

Lol

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There’s an obvious bias from the parents.

🙏🏾 agreed, not sure how parents do it, single guy here too and I can barely take care of myself. I think the point OP makes is that single people have needs too. For example an older married executive once dismissed suggestions of not working too late on Valentine’s Day... 😏.

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It is their fault! Why isn’t it?

Your third paragraph doesn’t make a lot of sense to me. With kids, you’re confirming even more than single people do...

Honestly the entire message doesn’t make too much sense to me but I just assumed that it’s because English isn’t my first language .

Sorry I tried to type consuming not confirming

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