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Yep, people get PIP’d for performance reasons too.

Have multiple on my (very large) team right now. Standard is basically the same as it was before—are you a liability to the firm?

It’s a very hard standard to meet, but plenty of people meet it.

Examples:
1) person who spent their entire week doing optional diversity trainings and initiatives rather than working every week (think 20+ hours) and then didn’t meet client deliverable many times
2) Person who didn’t mute their mic during a walkthrough while they were watching TV in the background and would call into team calls unmuted and you could hear all the non-work they were doing. Their work also was crap.
3) External hire senior who couldn’t complete workpapers that an A1 on their first day of the job would be expected to be able to complete with minimal supervision.

All of the above are liabilities to the firm in one way or another. When you put the firm at risk of losing money, you get shown the door.

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Did u coach him at all? How long did he last?

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I’ve been involved in about a dozen internal investigations that led to terminations from people who didn’t follow policy and worked abroad, lied on their timesheets about their tax location, then had client complaints about access to client systems from unexpected countries and/or taking data offshore contrary to contracts or regulations.

People get fired regardless of the economy if they do stupid things. It’s more about risk to the employer than team capacity.

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I can’t imagine. In a world where all of the Big 4 are bleeding staff and pushing more work overseas, I can’t imagine any of them letting go of an onshore associate

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Imagine thinking resource constraints will keep a poor performer or unethical employee employed! 🤣

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Also when you get fired and looking for new jobs - how will the new firm/company know? How does that part of recruiting work just curious

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This is part of the background screening at most companies. Past employers typically won’t give details behind the departure for liability reasons, but the question may be asked if you’d be a candidate for rehire. A no response to that question would generally not be good

if you get fired right now you have to have done something ethically or morally wrong

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I know a staff who fired from 3 previous positions. 2 from CPA firms for performance issue and 1 from industry from stealing Company’s inventory. He still have a job at my current firm despite performing poorly and working 30hr/week during the busy season.

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