Anyone with experience in treasury bonds? I’m not quite 60 but trying to ‘retire’ asap. I am in a unique situation where I am set up to easily go live in a LCOL country. I don’t like managing investments and I definitely don’t like worrying about them. My thought is to cash in my land and property, (no 401k) and live off the safe 4 to 4.5% they provide. Please share what you think about them/this!

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At 60ish you have a 25-30 year lifespan, barring any health issues… 4%-4.5% coupons on treasury bonds will provide some degree of income stability, but at 2% inflation (targeted), your purchasing power quickly diminishes…

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I use them primarily for my emergency fund and short term goals/sinking funds but know a few people who have done this.

You can either buy them directly from Treasury direct or through your brokerage account. I'm guessing you are going to try to set up a ladder?

If you are buying longer term remember that interest rate fluctuations can impact the value of your bond. That doesn't really matter if you hold to maturity but if you bought a bunch of 30 years and planned to sell some periodically you could have large losses (or gains). You will also be losing out to inflation, as you are getting 4% each year (if you choose one with a 4% coupon and are trying to live off of those instead of a ladder) but that will buy less in 10 years than it does now. You could also look at TIPS.

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To your last point, with historical data you'd be better off investing in an equity index fund but I certainly understand the appeal of not needing to think about it.

What would you think about just doing a ladder that would get you to social security and investing the rest? Maybe that is a 10 year Treasury ladder providing you with just enough to live comfortably until you start taking social security?

That way the rest will continue to grow, likely at a much higher rate than 4%, but you don't have to worry about normal stock market ups and downs as your basic living needs are already covered by your Treasury ladder and then SS.

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U kinda lost me at LCOL country. Keep in mind the FX impact. I would highly recommend diversifying with some bonds in their local currency (but questionable if we’re talking about South America). Non -issue if they’re pegged to the dollar.

My other thought is tax impact + inheritance + inflation. If a factor, you do your family a disservice if u don’t leave anything invested. From tax standpoint, not sure if foreign or local rates could be an issue. Inflation is something u might want to consider, and with ur risk tolerance it sounds like TIPS are the way to go.

Bottom line, if you are planning to go abroad this seems like a very important discussion to have with a CPA or specialized advisor

I’m gonna assume u want to go somewhere along the lines of Belize, Costa Rica, or maybe Mexico City. Best u talk to someone who has done that

Allocation funds like the Vanguard Life Strategy funds are extremely hands off and do not require management, and they let you choose a suitable allocation rather than doing a hypothetical, very risky 100% Treasury bond retirement.

Give them a thought.

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