Burnout: cyclical and becomes so debilitating that I find myself unable to do simple every day tasks. How often do you burnout? What does it entail for you?

ashamed to ask this but here we go.. 🐟🐠 of the world (M, F, and everyone), what are some spring clothes a man in his 30s should have? Please help a fellow 🐠. Idk if this helps but I'm over 6ft tall and live in the MW US, so temps are somewhere around the 50-60F/10-15C

Do Cisco renegotiates offer if competitive offer is shown from another company? Role is for grade 10. Tech stack is networking.

Do you submit cover letters for consulting applications? (Home grown, have received an offer from another consulting firm years ago but don't remember cover letter writing)

The one time is overly excited for a trip and what? My COVID test doesn’t come back on time 😭

@cstmr service, data management, sales, consulting,tech support,$50k+,remote,M-F

Anyone do their own bridal makeup? Any advice or thoughts?

I got notice everything at the new firm is good to go. Now to give notice. I’m dreading it. I really really like my boss but this opportunity is too good to pass up. How do you even start? I’ve been in this role 8 years. How to give notice?? Yikes! I’m giving about 2 1/2 weeks notice. 10/17 start date. Any help is appreciated!!!

(Strategic/brand planning) Making the move from Associate Director to Director: what do you consider the major differences between the two posts? Responsibilities, expectations, qualifications, etc.

Anyone have with recent experience interviewing/hiring with FP? Most of what I found online is from pre-covid but it sounds like things might have changed a bit.

Anyone who transferred to UK or any other country from India from RWE pod ?

For Oracle referrals, please DM

ZS fish - I saw a really interesting job posting that I would love to learn more about (below) - anyone open to connecting?

I saw some sales managers discussing hiring strategies, especially for entry level roles (e.g. SDR, BDR).

One strategy that came up was having the applicant do 90 minutes of cold calling into real prospects with the hiring manager coaching.

What do you think of this approach? Would be curious to hear from both hiring manager perspectives and from candidate perspectives.

Hi guys, does anyone know whether IBS software provide wfh?

What is "Summer Streets" in NYC? Worth doing with the wife?

HCL is offering me 3.2 band for 15 years experience and 38 lpa. Is it the correct band for my yoe?

Choose to be happy today

Most/Least stressful areas of practice (in either transition or litigation)

Anyone participating in dry January or done similar things in the past? Did you notice an effect on mental health or other benefits?

Wish apps like BetterHelp were free. I can’t afford healthcare or therapy (I’m unemployed, and yes, I’ve tried seeking pro bono therapy options — no place anywhere nearby offers it.) I really need a therapist I can talk to on at least a weekly basis to just unpack so much that’s bogging me down to the point of being unable to function some days, but it’s just so cost prohibitive! What sucks is everyone assumes this career hands you median wages on a platter but I’m worse off than I’ve ever been.

When covid first hit, I was delighted to be working from home. My hours even improved. Now, because of some triggering events, I’m dealing with horrible panic attacks on the daily. I’m dissociating and can’t focus long enough to get work done. I JUST hit a year at this firm and am going on a one month stress leave. Worried I might not kick this mental state in that time. Any advice as to what I can do while on leave so I can come back focused and ready to work?

Mental health issues in our profession are finally being recognized. While mental health issues are not unique to lawyers, the profession and it's client service mantra present unique challenges.

What about legal work is currently causing your mental health struggles?

Mine’s the hours, which is not normally my issue. I billed 230 for June and July and am already at 145 for August. My ability to focus is getting worse by the day, so I’m working longer to bill the same hours and have had to pull a couple all nighters. I burst into tears this morning when a client changed plans and now wants a major project by end of month, on top of my other deadlines next week... I just want to sleep.

If you’re reading this, go drink some water!

People with depression in big law- how do you manage? How do you meet your hours? The lack of support/training and being remote has been very hard on me.

What did y’all actually want to be when you grew up?

Is anyone else experiencing a new wave of covid anxiety due to the stress of figuring out the holidays? Got in an argument with a family member about safety guidelines and testing needing to happen and I’ve been feeling paralyzed by anxiety all day.

Does anyone have any advise when it comes to navigating getting help and your firm. I had a tough month mentally. But I reached out to my local bar’s LAP. I’m starting the process of seeing a therapist. But my dreads still here. I’m panicking about being short on hours, falling behind on my cases and explaining to my boss I know I’m behind at work but I am working on it. Any advise will be greatly appreciated.

question of the day: why did you join this bowl? Since I asked, I will start: I’ve been on a journey of recovery from legal-overachiever-workaholism. Changed jobs, city and environment and still working hard to recover from burnout that is, unfortunately, part and parcel of the legal profession.

Gripe- there is no room for a sick day in this profession. Big closing coming up. Have a bad cold. Have billed 40+ hours in the last 3 days.

Why do lawyers celebrate a culture of poor health?

I have chronic health issues and I’m severely depressed. I can’t even get myself to work anymore. If I don’t quit, I’m in serious danger of being fired. I feel that I need to just quit and take time off to get better but feel that it will be a stain on my career. I’m a pretty junior lawyer. Any advice. I just can’t do any work at all and I’m my anxiety and depression is spiraling out of control. I see a therapist I try to cope and it’s not working.

SEEKING OPINIONS & FEEDBACK: I love the honest & practical discussions here, where people can freely identify things that are going on & seek guidance.

Wondering whether anybody’d be interested in some kind of more purposeful community- i.e., gathering w/fellow lawyers to pursue some specific mental health & well-being goals? We’d provide some counseling/coaching type content, in bite sized chunks, but have regular discussions to connect & encourage one another on applying the content IRL.

I’ve been working to an unhealthy degree lately. And I’ve been making the excuse that I have a lot of work right now, but I’m starting to wonder if I’m addicted to it. Part of it is anxiety and perfectionism. But my behavior is now actively harmful to myself and starting to harm my marriage.

How do I stop? I’m not talking work-life balance. I mean, how do I say, “I don’t care that the client wants this tomorrow and I’m not close to done, I’m going to sleep tonight”?

I’ve had a really tense, emotionally exhausting week. Things wrapped up yesterday and now my body feels so strung out and exhausted. Any tips for coming down from being so strung out without relying on toxic habits and just shutting down/procrastinating? (My brain is saying “go for a run” and my body is getting stuck picking at my eyebrows for two hours) I feel like my central nervous system is on a roller coaster.

Anyone here willing to share their firsthand experience of searching for and selecting a therapist? My wife was kind enough to vet a few through our church and her friends, but wondering if I might find a better fit with a therapist who specializes in working with lawyers or small business owners.