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Wfh is amazing, saves me over 4000 dollars a year and 3- 4 hours of back to back commute per work day. It doesn’t get any better than that.
Why tf would you voluntarily sign up to commute and sit in a room full of work colleagues?
If I add in the commute plus administrative tasks I can do by being at home, work from home adds like 10 hours back to my week.
In monetary terms 10 hours a week at 30 bucks an hour is 15k A YEAR. Add in gas and miles on my car and that’s another couple thousand. Why on earth would you not choose that?
I’m an extrovert who is happy to stay home. I get to put in my time at work sans a commute, and I get to spend time with the people I actually want to.
I’m an introvert and I hate working from home.
It’s so refreshing to know I’m not alone in feeling this way lol
Is coming into the office 1-2 times a week that big of a deal? There are some benefits to in office work. Acting like your employer wanting collaborative in person work is somehow offensive is quite narrow minded. Everyone does stuff they don’t love to do at times to make a living. Get over it.
TS1 💙💙💙💙💙💙
Didn’t realize that showing up at the office or client as part of one’s JOB was the definition of an extrovert.
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Keyword is “sometimes” - which is why virtual people will come in 0-3 times per month. Most of the time it’s unnecessary.
I'm an introvert and hate WFH all the time. BRW being an introvert does not mean you don't want to speak to people in real life.
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Yah agree, WFH and being an introvert are not mutually exclusive. But I’m sure OP meant it as a joke… lighten up
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Dear introverts who actually like seeing coworkers in person,
Please leave us extroverts and introverts who prefer to spend time alone or with friends and family alone. I will intentionally work to reach out and bond with you despite working in my own comfy space with cheap yummy coffee and unlimited snacks. Don't worry, you won't lose out. Any loss in bonding quality will be made up with a combination of gifs and memes sent via teams chat.
Best,
A Loud Introvert
Don’t think the wfh versus in person argument is about introverts vs extroverts. Heard a talk that said most people are heavily “separatists” or “integrators”. Separatists thrive when their work life is their work life. Integrators are more comfortable with some overlap/mingling of personal and work life. So as a mom of young kids and a separatist, wfh is very challenging for me because I feel I can’t focus on either well. Pre-COVID I might have spent less time with my kids but it was definitely more focused. when I was with them I was super present. That was just how I made things work. The last (almost) two years has been a struggle for me because yes I’m home when the kids bus gets home but I have to stop work in the middle of what I’m doing to go out and get them. Then I have to leave all their things in the hallway and tell my four and seven year old to figure out a snack for themselves while I run back to my desk to finish what I was doing while all I hear is my kids complaining about why I can’t hang with them and read them books and hear about their day. Personally wfh is an awful mental, emotional, domestic, well-being challenge. So I’m doing what’s best for me. Work from the office 2-3x/wk and work from home the rest of the time. I’m taking the flexibility I need while communicating with and considering what’s overall best for my team too. Don’t think there’s one size fits all answer. But I guess I’m sorry for people like TA1 who can’t figure out how to make it work/aren’t getting the flexibility or support they want/need. 🤷🏻♀️
I'm so glad you found what works for you. I hope we can continue to work in a way that works best for our personal and family situations. Having a good balance changes your outlook on life
Fir real! I feel like for the first time in my decade long career I actually have control of my life. Through the early part of my career I lived in an unhealthy way spent way too much time at the office, never took time for myself to exercise or prepare meals, because I was totally burned out from all of the in person interactions that I had to prepare for and recover from each day. Now that I don’t have that to worry about all that have so much more energy, I sleep better, I exercise regularly, and I eat much healthier.
Interesting how there are so many posts of people stating they feel a need to be around people, but they are also introverts. Are you sure you're introverts?
Almost like these pseudoscientific terms are meaningless
Dear introvert,
It’s not about you it’s about bringing up the rest of the firm that needs the support and training you received.
Pwc2 you likely aren’t doing as fine virtually as you think. While associates are getting things done it’s at much less efficient rates and they are not learning what they need to move to the next level
Firstly, this us vs them is unhealthy. Most of us are not purely one or the other. I have times when I like going out in society; I have other times when I don't.
Second, introvert is not a protected class. If your employer decides you need to go back into the office, that is their right.
Thirdly, what is the big deal about working with your coworkers a few times a year? Truly.
How do you expect to move up if you never go to the office and get FaceTime with leadership or clients?
Not everyone cares to move up.
Weird that this is a non-issue pre-pandemic. Not even 2 years ago, everyone are okay going to the office 5x a week and no one says anything. Now, everyone has all these issues about going to work. I guess the world completely change after two years and a lot had forgotten how it used to be. I hope we don’t see a scenario 5 years from now where no one actually leave their house, even to socialize with family/friends, because they are happy and contented being “at home”.
Crowe 1 - flexibility goes both ways. We expect companies to be flexible to us but we should also be flexible on the need/ask of the company. This is only an issue when people don’t accept that the reality is we can only do hybrid and not 100% wfh. My point is that WFH 100% is too much of an ask if you are on client service and working as a team on an engagement. Yea it did work during unusual circumstances like the pandemic because no one has a choice but to stay home because we are on a lockdown. BUT to expect this 100% WFH to continue forever and demand as if it’s your right (not a privilege) is weird to me. Firm are offering hybrid already so I don’t see what’s the outrage.
If fully remote is the path firms go there’s a good possibility that staff and senior work becomes almost outsourced and treated like offshore/domestic service center work. Firms would reconfigure to not pay by office for COL and staff essentially become commoditized getting thrown onto year round projects.
Not that this doesn’t happen already but this would almost accelerate this process fully. They already pay less for the service center employees.
Good, most of it needs to be outsourced or automated anyways. Hopefully this accelerates it.
Ditto
Say it louder for the folks in the back!
As an introvert, I feel like going into the office with the whole team once a week would be preferable. Work is just a lot more tolerable when you’re physically with your team. With that being said, I do prefer WFH more since it has more advantages than going into the office so that’s why I believe going in once a week is a good compromise.
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This world is going soft. We all have to flex. Called reality.