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Such a big brain move. Get everyone fired and then apply knowing they have openings

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Big brain comment

Every well-run large layoff involves consultants. Very difficult to run these with just internal staff, given the political sensitivity.

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…they’re RSUs, not options. I personally barely have any bc they are issued quarterly. The bitterness some of y’all have is just sad.

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Or girl!

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I remember when Bain did the layoffs for my old company. We had hired back twenty percent of the people they suggested we fire before the severance was over and folks were getting double pay. Consulting often misses key factors like who actually knows what they’re doing at low levels. It also often makes the false assumption that someone not working a lot is a poor performer or unnecessary cause they have so little work, when in actuality they are the rock star and figured out how to do their job swiftly.

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That was kind of my point B4. Not knowing the individuals and not being able to convince the leadership of the company of the importance in individual decisions is a massive mistake.
So, it was on Bain. It’s the old consultant trick to always blame the client for poor implementation though. Like McKinseys quote “half of all implementations fail because employees don’t get on board” then get them on board. That’s your job.

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How? All our firms do this kinda work, trimming the fat is just the way of life for companies, at least consulting firms can help it be targeted using benchmarks and functional perspectives

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MBB as soon as the economy turns…

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This is the real underrated comment here.

are you telling me that the McK/BCG wouldn't chomp at this opportunity if given a chance?

(Leaving Deloitte and ACN off because they wouldn't be invited)

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What odd firms to add on the tail there. First part of your comment is spot on though

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There's no way McKinsey wasn't also involved. This affects a lot of stuff and it's not trivial. 11,000 high earners will scare the bay area as well as other locations. Add in the other bloodletting and it's smart to ask some questions before nuking it from orbit n

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I love the “blame Bain”. In true MBB fashion the company will then “blame associate / EM” if anything does happen. Part of your role as a junior is to be a sacrifice.

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I called this in a separate thread, consultants recommend layoffs so we can fill the gaps with contingent workers 😂

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If you are laid off for hours, what is a neural reason for saying that your employment ended? Especially if there is a month or two break in finding employment.

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Holy cow. Meta’s 11,000 layoffs today is insane. If we weren’t knee deep into a recession, we are now.

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What if Elon Musk replaces Rajesh Gopinathan as the CEO of TCS?
All the useless managers will be fired?

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Hi does schneider Electric layoff people.. How is job security?

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Stuck in a weird limbo where I want to leave my job more than anything but grateful that I have one at all with all the layoffs in our industry. It's a new kind of trapped. Anyone else feels the same?

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More layoffs last week at Leo B. Seems they went after more Seniors & $alaries. Thank you France.

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Has Deloitte gotten laid off yet?

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Layoffs at Ogilvy NYC...

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Hi fishes,
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Ex-Deloitter here. My goal is to finish working across ALL of the Big 4, and then post-MBA at ALL of the MBB. Will I be considered a flight risk or will I garner the Thanos level respect I deserve?

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