Why does it cost more to hire someone from outside of the agency than hiring a former freelancer in the agency as a full-timer? Also, the outsider’s salary is quarter of what the new full-timer is getting. The math just doesn’t add up to me.

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I don’t follow everything that you’re saying so I’ll just respond to the first 13 words. It’s not just the cost of salary for the new person you have to consider. It’s the overhead of an internal recruiter, of HR and onboarding, and sometimes paying a headhunter’s fee.

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And they’re a short term commitment, versus the baggage that comes with taking on another annual salary.

Plus there needs to be an open req to fill, which means your agency needs a client they can bill to make the money it takes to pay a full-time employee.

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