Does it looks bad if you bring your spouse to work trips? I’m starting a new job and looks like I will have to go to Italy but i don’t know how to ask this?

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Everyone does this. Keep their purchases 100% separate from your own and don’t mess that up even once

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This ^
People who are saying no, hate they’re spouses 😂

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How soon after starting will the trip to Italy occur? What is the purpose and agenda for the trip? Will other co-workers be traveling to Italy for this trip? Will you be expected to entertain clients, or meet up with co-workers for dinner?

If having your spouse present interferes in any way with your ability to meet work expectations, leave them at home. Think of it like being at work any other day - your spouse typically wouldn’t be invited to business dinners or most company outings.

If they can be fully independent, including while you attend evening commitments, then it may be fine.

Only after obtaining this information would I consider asking your employer about their policies around spousal travel. Your colleagues and clients should be no more aware of your spouse in Italy then they would be when you are working in the local office.

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Unless you’re going to tag a vacation to the end of it, I don’t really see the point of bringing spouse. You’ll be expected to be in office all day and likely out in the evenings with team/client.

Unless your spouse can be independent and you find not having to pay the cost of the room for her to travel a huge motivator (which I don’t really see since you’ll still have to get her flights and likely only a few days there) I’d just go alone

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These comments nail it - the simplest way is to have them join you at the end and extend the trip. Make sure to check that your company is ok with you booking your flight so that you’re coming back later (and check it won’t cost the company more - if you’ve got some tenure, they might not care, but if it’s early on, it won’t look good).

If they want to come at the same time and hang out in the hotel room/do their own thing, check that it won’t disrupt other things - hotel room costs in parts of Europe can be per person (not just per room), airport transfer may be impacted. And also remember that part of the trip may well be social events in the evening that they shouldn’t be at. It’s probably not good to be cutting out because of personal commitments.

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My sister and her husband do this. Most of her time is spent sightseeing and relaxing while hubby is at conferences. She attends events where spouses are allowed like parties. Then they squeeze in a day or two of vacation before flying home

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I've done this, and I didn't ask for permission from work. I just made travel arrangements for my wife as soon as I knew my own details and kept all personal expenses completely separate. My wife did her own thing while I worked and we spent evenings together. One one of the trips, I tacked PTO on and we went on a vacation together after my work obligations were complete.

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Some people will frown on it, others won’t care or will think it’s nice.
Personally I probably wouldn’t do this at a new job/first trip.

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Look at company policy, some companies explicitly don’t allow spousal travel as the purpose of the trip is to be amongst coworkers

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If you don’t want to hookup with your coworkers then sure.

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As HR I can testify that everybody do that. As long as you're not using company dime (they share a room with you, but nothing else) and not treating the trip as vacation with your spouse, nobody even has to know.
People get fired when:
1) They invent business trips to Paris to spend 1-hour meeting a client
2) They bring their spouses to business dinners, when nobody else does
3) They try to expense romantic dinners/ random purchases (I once had a fight with CMO trying to expense Hermes tie).

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No need to ask or tell if you don't want to. Nothing wrong with it

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Yes.

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Very common, just don't mess up expenses

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Very common but make sure expectations are set. I knew we were in trouble when my work trip to Barcelona turned into our trip to Barcelona. She quickly got frustrated with the amount of time I had to spend working, including evenings, even though we had extended the trip from 3 to 7 days to allow for our part.

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I do this all the time and nobody cares. Just make sure they know it's a work trip for you! And of course make sure you're not expensing their food etc.

It can be a different story if you're doing a whole-company trip somewhere with a social/company culture element to it. Then they might want you hanging out with coworkers in the evenings instead of your spouse. But it sounds like this is a normal work trip and that should be totally fine.

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Your spouse needs to pay for airfare and meals

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Done this many times- mostly I am the one tagging with my wife- her job takes her cooler places. In many cases, her work partners brought their spouses too. Now I am good friends with all of them!

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I’m feeling really frustrated with my coworker for bringing her family along on our team trip. It seems unprofessional and unfair to the rest of us who are there to focus on work and team bonding. While I understand the desire to spend time with loved ones, it just feels like it complicates the purpose of the trip. It can make it harder for us to connect and collaborate as a team. I wish we could keep these trips more focused on our work and team dynamics. It’s just a bit disheartening to see that priority shifted.

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Be careful with expenses and you should be fine. And prepare her for the fact that she won’t see you a whole lot!

If you are paying for her portion of the trip, it none of your company’s fu**king business. As long as you don’t bring your spouse to strictly company events while you are in Italy.

I have done this many tines before and it always has the same result: me in meetings all day, trying to work and be productive while in a foreign environment, exhausted by having to be “on” for partners/ clients, and keeping crazy hours due to the culture shift and just wanting to crash in my hotel room each night after my work ends. My partner eventually bored by having to self-entertain in isolation in a foreign city, eating alone since I am obligated to have client /team meals and eventually they get frustrated that I cannot spend time with them because I am always working, and the “we never take tine to enjoy our lives” argument continues. There is no happy balance trying to mix work and pleasure.

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