Feelings about project managers? Good, bad, otherwise?

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They make the world go ‘round!

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I was scared to open this post. I appreciate that people realize there are good ones and bad ones. If you ever have a PM that isn't willing to provide options, doesn't offer solutions, hasn't planned for the unexpected, cant defend their decisions, you've got yourself a bad one. Unfortunately, some folks still don't get our value and don't feel the need to allocate enough resources, which means we can't provide as much assistance which turns into PMs don't add value. Its a cycle that's tough to break.

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The mere fact that so many are young and entry level and clueless about what it takes to get a job done other than the rote timeline makes me lean toward the fact that we can live without them. They would be useful if it was mandatory across the entire industry that to be a PM you have to have a minimum of 10 years experience in the biz.

In the old days production would sit in on a briefing and right there with all departments, they would back out of a project, creating the timeline. And traffic moved it around. Bring back traffic as an entry level to monitor the online routing, develop timelines with all departments present, and lose project management. It's a huge money suck from agencies. Some PMs get paid more than the creatives. That's the shame of it.

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Didn’t have them for a long time. Then I did, and now I don’t know what I ever did without them.

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Good ones are invaluable, bad ones are worthless. In my experience it also often depends on the account. I've worked on accounts that didn't allow PMs to do their actual jobs and reduced them to an extra account person asking "is it done yet?" every hour. Or reduced them to scheduling assistants because every project "needed" 3 meetings a day that everyone had to be in. A real PM team would actually do something about those kinds of issues.

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That’s what I am dealing with. A to do list monitor and meetings about to do lists.

Don’t need them. Account people should know the business inside and out and manage accordingly. Digital producers however - that makes sense.

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Good ones are invaluable. Bad ones can make your life hell.

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Oh the good ones .... swoon 😍😍😍!

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People take them for granted when they’re good. Hate on them when they’re bad or overloaded. A lot like IT in that way. I love a good project manager and do everything I can to make sure they like working with me back

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The good ones make everything about a project better and easier. Anything outside of that will just be a burden on everyone.

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Can’t live without them.

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They are my right arm. Couldn’t get things done without them. Love my PMs.

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Good PMs are you best friends. Bad PMs ruin your projects and your life.

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I’d like to meet one someday...

What’s the difference between a project manager and an on staff producer?

Google it and you can find comparisons to clarify the differences.

If you don't appreciate PM, then you probably don't let them do the full scope of their job, or you don't staff them appropriately to do the full scope of their job. Like other roles, there should be allocation for experienced senior level oversite and direction as well. Hint, the full scope of their job isn't creative wrangling. Ad agencies still don't get the full value of PM vs other organizations. Instead they choose to staff armies of inexperienced Account people.

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