Female here and I hate to say it! But whenever I’m pull to a new project I secretly hope I don’t get a female lead. 😞 I had some interesting experiences with women leads, which it does not apply to all women!, but I feel a bit hesitant and I feel is ptsd lol how can I overcome this mentality?! I’m pro women and equally etc etc but I often rather deal with a dude lead Bc we women are so hard on each other. Smh 🤦🏽‍♀️

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You’re not alone, f here too. I’ve been on many many teams, and the only 2 nightmare teams I’ve been on were nightmares because of a female M/SM. I’m pro woman, but not pro-bi****.

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Male here, I’ve had two female PjMs in the last year. One was terrible and blamed me for a mistake she made in assigning hours and cost me billable time. The other is very chill, helpful, knowledgeable etc. I’m a black male and race can sometimes play a factor in not trying to seem off task or unserious in front of others when you’re black and in positions of leadership. I’m leading a team now and I try to keep things light but males are given more grace in these scenarios than females.

I'm a dude and I hope the opposite. The women leads I've had have been nearly universally spectacular; the male leads are about 50/50. The worst leads I've had were all men.

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Found this so relatable! I have a female lead at the moment in a new company and she is a breath of fresh air. She’s supportive, inspiring and really backs her team. But I had a female lead in my previous role who was absolutely horrendous and I think I have also got a little PTSD from my experience of being managed by her. She was so insecure that she made life hell on the regular and was a micro manager. She was promoted far too soon and her team suffered because of it.

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Female here and agree. Women are each other’s harshest judges. When I made a decision to step back temporarily from work (just for a few years because I had young children) it was the women who gave me the passive aggressive comments and judgement during this period. The men were way more accepting.

I think it’s because women have to make very tough choices in their careers if they have families and when they come upon someone who makes different choices than them, they act snarky because it makes their decisions feel less validated.

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Male here. My female manager at my internship hated me because I was a threat to her position (Doing a job specialized in what she had worked on and I wanted to improve it). Current manager now is a male. He is good but gives me anxiety. Something in the way his tone is.

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Best bosses I’ve ever had were a team of women who ran the entire division. Sorry you experienced that.

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You get good leads and bad leads regardless of gender.

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I feel the same. I really dislike female leads. All that I've ever worked with were not nice.

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You are not alone there, girl!Sad but true

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Is it all women or specific age range?

Yes the older women are the worst. Honestly they are a complete disappointment.

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Very true. But I think male/female dynamics also plays a factor too. I see leadership be rude and make snide remarks to female coworker during meetings and perk up and smile when a male counterpart makes a witty “cute” comment. So your male experience will be different for a female experience.

I’ve seen that. But I have only seen that with women/male managers who got into a leadership role prematurely and their frontal lobe still had room to grow 😂
And I’m not taking a dig at young managers. This is not age specific. I once had a senior female leader who had a crush (for the lack of a better term?) on one of my teammates, and it was embarrassing to watch her fall all over herself as she tried to flirt with him. She kind of hated the fact that we sat in the same cubicle space and I didn’t quite shy away from smirking whenever it happened 😂
My cubicle was moved within the next 2-3 weeks.

But then again, I have also seen men being absolute creeps around their female subordinates.
And yes, being biased towards a gender when there are power dynamics at play IS creepy.


I can’t think of a single instance where a male/female leader worth their salt swooned or perked up at their subordinate’s ‘cute’ remarks.
So yeah, it’s not a gender-specific thing. Some people are just weird and frustrated or are going through a full blown mid-life crisis.

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I don't know why this is but I've personally heard it and seen it from female colleagues. I remember one female coworker would constantly be eyed head to toe by our [elder, straight] female boss and I think more harshly judged. I think the boss kind of judged my coworker more like her daughter than as a subordinate in some weird way? Or maybe it reminded the boss of when she was younger, and she was hyper-aware/concerned about how the coworker would be perceived?

I’m not going to invalidate your experience because we will all have different experiences. I’ve had experiences similar to yours and I can say I relate with the guilt of feeling anti woman. Now I just hope for someone that won’t destroy my mental health

I was pro male lead till two projects ago when I met the one who made life difficult and had no respect for work-life-balance because he’s a confirmed bachelor. What an ass! 🙄

Ill take the lead 🙋🏻‍♂️🥳

+1, to many of the above. Absolute best and worst direct managers I have had were women. The best ones were world-class exemplary leaders that I would have followed to the ends of the Earth: absolute triple threats in competence, management ability, and background. The worst ones were complete nightmares.

I have had several female colleagues, all of them highly successful, confess to me in hushed tones they prefer male managers and avoid female ones.

I am total understand where you are coming from currently dealing with that know and I am a F.

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