Freelancing at an agency who wants to make me full time. Salary isn’t what I’d like, but I feel like I can’t walk away with the freelance market being what it is. Any advice to get the salary you want

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Thanks for saying this out loud. People please be aware, if you accept lower rates/salaries this unfortunately begins to set the standard across the board. This of it as a buyers comp for people.

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Can you counter? What do you have to loose? If they just invested all of this time in having you freelance and liked you enough to make an offer, it’s a bird in the hand situation. They probably need you more than you need them. Otherwise they need to start over with another freelancer. More work for them.

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I didn’t get the full salary I wanted (they did give a little) but worked extra vacation time and more flexibility in hours/on-site work to help make up for it. Good for my family situation.

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It probably depends on how far you’re off. If it’s not far, you can try holding tight. I recommend having an honest conversation about where you want to be, and if they can’t get you there ask them when they can. Can they guarantee a bump in the new year when new budgets open up (their CFO can plan for that)? You can also ask for a plan —that’s triggered by specific metrics— to get you where you want. You could also ask for a signing bonus (it will hit their budget a little differently) in lieu of the amount you’re looking for.

Lots of options if they’re willing to play ball.

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Is the freelance market really that bad?

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#BeBest. (The freelance market isn't that good because your other FLs have a lower bar. Especially those from recruiters.)

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Some recruiters out there are bloody horrible. I was told by one that if I didn't want to accept $40/hour (I'm a Copywriter/CD with 20+ years under my belt, D&AD, Obie, etc) then I should change careers because agencies are on tight budgets. Oh please. Tell me another one.

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@seniorcopywriter2 - how’d that work out for you?

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Do you have anything you can negotiate on? Can you decline benefits (and get them via a spouse) in exchange for more money? I’d say try to negotiate for a 4 day week but since you’re a creative no one would respect that anyway. Can you negotiate for a bonus/more bonus?

Does this ‘signing bonus’ thing exist for producers too?
Also, I don’t think the FL market is particularly bad, or hasn’t been for me. But I did recently get a call from a place offering less than half of my day rate (which is under $1k), and I wondered who is accepting rates that low and making the experience not suck enough that the employer would keep seeking talent at that level?

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