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Have a job offer from TBWA but they’re WFH policy isn’t flexible and I’ll be expected to be on site eventually. Would this be a dealbreaker for you? At a lesser known agency now but love the flexibility that I can be remote torever with option to go into the office

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That would be a dealbreaker for me.

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That’s a very personal decision. Only you know how important that is to you. For me it is a dealbreaker. My current job (I’ve been here 3 months) I negotiated that I would stay remote forever and asked for an extra week of vacation. They didn’t even blink or push back at all. BTW, it was also an Omnicom agency.

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There wasn’t really a “secret formula” to the negotiation. I was freelancing at the time and was approached by a recruiter from the agency. The agency is in a different city and the recruiter told me from the get go it could be a remote position. During the interview process I was asked by both, the recruiter and the GCD if I would be open to moving at some point in the future to where this office was (it’s a network agency and there’s offices in a bunch of different cities. This particular vacancy was for the Chicago office). I said no. I wouldn’t ever move. They came back to me with an offer which was in the range I had said was acceptable. I just countered with an extra week of vacation and asked to please make sure my contract stipulates I will always remain a remote employee. They came back with what I asked for. I accepted the offer. That’s it. I did agree to travel to the office once in a while if necessary and obviously if needed for productions. So far I’ve been to the office once, basically just to meet some of my team peeps in person (though they’re WFH too).

I like going in once a week with the option to not go in every once in awhile or if I want to work from somewhere else for a few weeks.

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Which TBWA? I’m within the network and work closely with one. I found the NY leadership not very flexible or willing to push back on Wren’s mandates, where as other agency leadership has so far been able to

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Some other partner agencies in the network have straight up said no to the Omni call-back to the office. TBWANY seems to have caved and are asking for 3 days/wk

I have also turned down job offers for not being fully remote (with the option to go in). Even when the offer was more $$ than my current role. Flexible WFH has become a non negotiable for me.

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i would pass without forever remote

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Yea, but it’s WK.

Idea: take the job and go in once a month. Wait for someone to reprimand you. Ignore it. (Agencies cannot fill their openings, they’re not laying off a good employee who gets the work done over a stupid rule)

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If the labor market shifts, they would. But until then…

I work at Chiat day NY, they’ve been talking about hybrid since October and no one has gone in yet. The wfh policy keeps changing due to Omicron, I honestly don’t plan on going in again

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I’ve turned down job offers because of it.

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Which TBWA?

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I haven’t really seen it strictly enforced. 2-3 days was the suggestion before Omnicrom went wild

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It's going to be the deal breaker for me if it's enforced

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Generally speaking avoid TBWA…not a “motivation and reward” environment…the WFH inflexibility is a bad sign anyway…

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Who is communicating that the WFH policy isn't flexible? I've been in conversations where HR says "no" but the account leadership on the team agreed to it and ultimately it was offered. If the leadership on your team is open to it, that may provide influence. Good luck, (and for me it would have been a deal breaker).

Realistically they’ve had major talent exits over the last 5 years, and risking another exodus would decimate a lot of the goodwill managements built back up. It’s weird that the position’s being pitched to you like that.

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