Help me understand why so many creatives at good agencies are leaving to go freelance right now. Do they not know how tough it is even for the most successful freelancers?

like
Posting as :
works at
You are currently posting as works at

It’s just framing because they were laid off (my guess).

like

We don’t always have a choice…

likesmarthelpful

Generally speaking, when selling products and services (and most certainly yourself), you have to assume a position of confidence, purpose, and optimism. With friends and family, you can be open and direct about how upset and scared you might be, but on LinkedIn and in other professional environments there is no benefit in seeking sympathy - instead, you gotta express excitement for your new adventure as part of winning business and support from strangers and colleagues.

I realize there’s a whole world of thought along the lines of “bring your whole self” and those folks would likely disagree with me. And all I would say is that there is a time and place for that, and rarely is it in sales conversations.

like

Because if you’re coming from a good agency it’s not that hard to freelance.

like

Not at all trying to throw shade! There’s bias in our industry and it’s important to talk about. I have no doubt about your abilities or illusions about the state of our market.

Is it really bad full-time people? It is really unnerving out here.

Along with the aforementioned "laid off pitched as deciding to do it", a couple things I've noticed.

You get so fed up with agency politics and BS that freelancing seems like it HAS to better. It can't be worse, can it?

(Maybe just my immediate network,.but) It feels like we're at the start of a new cycle of creative leadership. Older leaders who've been around and are good are taking a step back or leaving or whatever, and new, underprepared and unskilled creatives are taking their place. They don't know how to be an ECD or CCO yet,.and it drives their people to freelance.

I’ve had several friends go freelance in the last 3-4 months and they’re all killing it making it look easy. Makes me want to join them

Cool. I get it. I suck.

Related Posts

Any recommended study material for CIPP and/or CIPM (still debating the two)?

What and all the way to get IT job abroad from India.

like

Hi Fishes, I have got an offer from EV Manufacturing start-up.Currently I am working with Maruti Suzuki. Shall I take risk to leave India's Biggest OEM to join a 2 year old startup?
Please Suggest.

like

Hello fishes,
How much value would an AWS certified Developer associate certification add to one's profile?
And how convenient would it be to switch to DevOps with that certification and the necessary skills?

like

Hi Fishers,
I have 4 years experience in manual testing.
How do I move into Automation testing.
What to study? Is selenium good to study in terms of long term

Considering getting my license and starting off as a real estate agent. I've always loved real estate, house flipping, interior design. What can I expect as income and time commitment as a brand new agent with no book of business? How hard is it to get established and become well known in my area? I'm in the Bay Area. Anything else I should know before I quit my job and persue this dream?

like

Hi Fishes i am making a whatsapp group for the people who are transitioning from non-tech field to data science
If anyone would be interested plz join
And let's learn , and transition together

Agenda:
Putting self progress on the course they are doing ,so that others can be motivated and
Discussion on topics related to transitioning

like

Guys random question. Is their any role of participation in events like the one happened today in lcci IDS in the career progression? Everyone was singing dancing i felt like if I'm not participating it will affect my career progression in lilly.

funny

If money was not a criteria, what job would you do?

like

Hello,
Anybody who can guide me into getting a job into Salesforce field in Toronto, Canada

like

Applied for the MIT Sloan MBA/Harvard MPP dual and got into Sloan. Would this significantly increase my chances of getting into the MPP?

like

Is anybody familiar with the CIA challenge exam?

I am currently a CPA debating if I should work towards a CIA certification.

If I read this correctly I can forgoe some of the CIA exam since I am already a CPA. Is this correct?

likehelpful

How many days of preparations needed to get PD1 certification? And how can I prepare ?

Hey everyone! Looking for a mentor in the Denver area. Currently a media specialist working on the strategy side that is hoping to make the move into copywriting. Would love to bounce some ideas off of someone or simply learn more about your career path!

like
like

What steps should I take to become a marketing manager in 4 years? I'm currently a coordinator but I'm very goal-oriented. Determined to achieve this!

like

Currently my location is banglore. I raised location change request to chennai..I informed the same to my Manager..he said there will be less growth in chennai..is it true🙄

like

Considering making the move from distressed investing/special situations to consulting, particularly pe consulting for the following reasons: more team-oriented, structured career path, more variety, etc. Thoughts?

like

Hi fishes,

Needed suggestions from you guys. Currently I am working in TCS,having 1.2 years of experience with CTC 7.5 lpa. I am confused if I need to do M.tech or MBA or just do company switch after some time periods. Which will be more efficient in salary perspective?

Whether I should do m.tech in cs or mba in HR or just keep on switching?

like

After nearly 20 years in the military serving in T&E and HR roles, I’m considering moving on and have been conducting lots of research into consulting. BS, MA, and SPHR cert - no MBA. I’m looking for suggestions or advise about transitioning. DC Metro area is likely landing spot.

like

More Posts

Anyone else cursed with desperately wanting someone to tell you what to do to get better, but knowing that you would never listen?

like

What’s your average base and OTE for sales development/business development roles in UK?

like

Which European city has high salaries? Just moved to Geneva to work at an intl org. Coming from advertising in NYC. The job is nothing like what was advertised and turning out to be a waste of time vs

like

Anyone from Genpact Hyderabad Hafeezpet location?
I just joined Genpact and have some queries.

Any assistance you can provide would be greatly appreciated😊

Is there a market for lawyers to add expertise In crisis management or reputation management? My goal is to counsel clients on how to respond to media inquiries without saying or posting something detrimental to a potential litigation while still maintaining communication with their client base. If so, how to break into that industry? Courses? Books? Certifications?

like

Can someone elaborate on floating holidays at ZS ?

like

Is there a way for me to automate creating columns to do this so I can drag across and create my columns? For example--
1Q2021 2Q2021 3Q2021 4Q2021 2021 1Q2022?

likesmart

Hi Fishes,
Can anyone please refer me for
UBS have multiple job IDs with me.

like

any fresher opening in HR for my brother. He is post graduate in MBA HR

like

Do IBM has offices in Mumbai location??
More precisely for SAP practise in Airoli?? IBM

like

Globant or HCL Technologies please suggest , in terms of Salesforce projects , work life balance ,job security ,better policies ?

like

Hi all

I am looking for a referral for switch on a position of Business Analsyt.
Currently in my role I work on MySql scripts, testing, analysis and documentation.

Current exp - 1.3 yr.
Current company - TCS

Happy Father’s to all the doggie dads and to all the doggie moms that are both mom & dad to their fur babies 💕🐾🎈🎉

Post Photo
likefunny

Does JPMorgan Chase scrutinize internet expenses bill for reimbursement? Like cross checking bill amount and account number with company

like

We got the official address. When do u think it will be functional?

like

Having some severe Executive Dysfunction atm. I can't imagine that the patent attorney bowl here is short on the neurodivergent. Suggestions/tips/tricks/advice are all appreciated. I recently moved, bought my first home, got vaccinated, etc. - basically just a huge load of stressful events that are probably doing a number on my brain, but I also just can't seem to get on top of.

Please, if you're neurotypical, think thrice before posting - I'm not normal, and want help, not stress or dismiss

like

It was suggested I repost this here. Figured you'd all appreciate it.

Post Photo
likefunny

Is it better to be at a small shop and crank out work for smaller clients in your first year or be at a big name shop and maybe make nothing? Deciding on an offer...

like

Is anyone feeling especially burnt out lately? I’ve had to work weekends for the last month. I know deals are sporadic but it feels like they have consistently ended up this way where I’m forced to work weekends. Getting frustrated because pay has also slowed down.

like

Additional Posts in Creatives

Anyone else have a client that wants to communicate “informally” over weekends? I’ve got a client that can’t seem to turn his work brain off. It drains me M-Fri. I don’t need it Sat/Sun too

Ever see your rejected ideas win Grand Prix by other creatives? Seen it more than twice?

like

Is WFH really ever going to end? I see the benefits of in-person at times, but does it really out weigh remote? As an industry we’ve done it almost two years! How likely is it places that are going to tentatively be hybrid actually follow through?

like

What are some good twitter communities to get involved in? Or accounts to follow? Several people have told me they had a lot of success networking on twitter, which boggles my mind-but I’m open to it

If you could work at an agency for the rest of your career, would you do it? Or do you see being a professional creative as a means to another career altogether?

like

read here that one should stand up for one's work, then read that some creative wasn't cooperating & a bunch of people said to just ghost him. could be 2 sides of the same situation! (ghosters suck)

like

Looking to move to New York - does anyone know which agencies are hiring these days?

like

Things are apparently going to get better after a client will be leaving, I’ll get to work on different brands but I am feeling pretty burnt out from the agency I’m at. Will new clients help? Or should I look elsewhere. Been at the agency almost 3 years, I feel like I need to switch things up for my sanity.

like

Best website to build a book....

What advice do you have for someone who wants to make a quick and seamless transition from operations to creative?

New writer on an account. Being pitted against the other existing writer on the account for every project. They take it very personally if my work is chosen over theirs

A small part of me wish I would get laid off and be forced into freelancing so I can make 💰 💰 💰

like

Has any creative here ever tried to make the leap to leave advertising and be a film maker, photographer, illustrator, etc.?? I’m so tired of ad agencies and how draining the “creative” can be. Happiness is more important than a nice paycheck for me. Any inspiration success stories advice would be so helpful right now...

likefunny

Is there an online or college course which concentrates on the craft of Art Direction? Like the developer bootcamp, but covering visual story telling, photo art direction, animation, video, etc

like

Anyone worked for an in-house agency? Pros and cons? Did/do you enjoy it? Would you recommend it? More stable? More money?

A creative judging film craft at CLIO’s and don’t have a single film in the portfolio? #industryproblems

likesmart

Kind of wanna move to Europe, where do I find an awesome job europeople? CD.

like

Trying to start reading more/ finding some blogs and inspiring resources. What are some of your favorite blogs/medium publications/online sources/etc of inspiration?

Have you ever been promised to work on one client during an interview and then ended up on another client that you didn't want to work on? What did you do?

like

Quit my cushy job a few months ago because I was totally burnt out and mental health was shot. Thinking about quitting this industry all together - anyone else go through similar? Any advice? Thanks!

like

New to Fishbowl?

Download the Fishbowl app to
unlock all discussions on Fishbowl.
That was just a preview…
Sign Up to see all discussions
  • Discover what it’s like to work at companies from real professionals
  • Get candid advice from people in your field in a safe space
  • Chat and network with other professionals in your field
Sign up in seconds to unlock all discussions on Fishbowl.

Already a user?
Login here

Share

Embed this post

Copy and paste embed code on your site

Preview

Download the
Fishbowl app

See what’s happening in your industry
from the palm of your hand.

A phone with Fishbowl app

Scan your QR code to download
Fishbowl app on your mobile

Download app

Sign up for free to view this conversation on Fishbowl

By continuing you agree to Terms of Use and Privacy Policy

Already have an account? Log in

Sign up for free to continue using Fishbowl

By continuing you agree to Terms of Use(New) and Privacy Policy(New)
Messaging rates may apply

Already have an account? Log in

For account settings, visit Fishbowl on Desktop Browser or

General

Legal