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That would be a weird reason. Perhaps what that means is that they have two internal candidates for one spot, both qualified. One fits better with the team. But that’s just a charitable interpretation.
Culture fit can be an excuse for people not liking you
Culture shouldn’t be a person. It’s a company. And should only be an issue if the person is toxic. Not just not a mirror of the same people.
That’s not a legal reason for a layoff. If that happened to you: sue.
Any reason is valid under at will unemployment as long as it isn’t doesn’t violate the rights of a protected class. OP would have to be able to prove it was related to their identity (if they are part of a marginalized group).
Happened to me because I didnt go to happy hours lol
@ACD3 it can be if the individual can not be around alcohol for personal reasons.
“B-but they don’t have to drink” yeah I know. Which is why I encourage people to join me at happy hour. But some people cannot be around it because they fear they can’t resist partaking.
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They would not. They would manufacture some subjective failure on something else.
THIS! And then eventually either terminate you for “company restructuring” or put you on PIP and lay you off for unsatisfactory performance
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The guy who got picked bought into working 24/7 bc he “loves what he does.” The other has a life outside of work, and therefore cannot “go all in.”
Most obvious is you’re too old.
It wouldn’t be a “layoff” if the reason is culture fit so im assuming you just mean fired/let go— ive seen it happen when someone’s creative style isn’t a good fit for the client, or when the manager has certain expectations around communication and availability that the employee isn’t meeting. But usually culture fit is code for a person who is less willing to put in unpaid overtime than the rest of the team.
Not true. They won’t tell you, it they will lay you off and talk about the culture fit behind the closed doors.
“Culture fit” means both nothing and anything they want it to mean/a thing they won’t name directly.
Left my last retail corporate job due to being targeted as a problem person because I challenged the status quo. Was a top quartile performer and grew annual revenue by 65% total in 7 years.
Trust me if you didn’t play by their rules and/or challenged them, then they manufacture terrible excuses like “culture fit”.
“Culture fit” is also used to reject applicants who the org deems “too old (40)” or if the application is for a brand-side role and you have long a history agency experience and “we don’t want independent thinkers.”
We had an employee we let go and we called it culture fit but really they were just a total jerk. The whole team got really bad vibes. They were arrogant and sexist but there weren’t super clear examples, it was a million micro aggressions so that’s why we said “culture fit.” And I’d do it again. In most states that are at will, that’s a perfectly fine reason to fire someone, the only issue here is if they calling it a “layoff” as you said OP. That’s not a reason to layoff someone, and layoffs usually impact more than one person.
This happens all the time at Publicis on the big accounts. If the client or agency management has any stylistic issue they’ll move you off to avoid any problems. It typically ends in a layoff if you can’t find a place to land. You’ll end up signing a severance agreement that says it wasn’t wrongful termination. Standard practice. Happens to most people at some point.
That just means someone doesn’t like you.
Montana is the only state that is not an "at-will" employment state, meaning that employers in Montana cannot fire an employee without a legally justifiable "good cause" after any probationary period. Anyone at any job in another state can legally be let go for any reason they choose to tell you, no matter hw ridiculous it sounds.
Obviously, I don’t know anything about the OP’s situation, so I can’t say anything one way or another about whether they got a fair shake or a raw deal. However, after I had 5-10 years work experience, the number one thing I asked myself about a given job opportunity was about “culture fit”. I’ve seen this happen a lot of times - and sometimes it’s exactly what it says. Often people coming from larger to smaller places are used to fundamentally different work paces or having fewer hats to wear. Anther example is people coming into tech or services from package goods - radically different worlds. Other times, it can be how much emphasis a person places on “time spent on the idea” vs “work out the door” (I’ve seen this a lot with people who come outside agencies to in-house). How a person meshes with a client’s style can also be critical. On the management side, the fit between “strategy/brand” orientation vs “sales/operations” orientation is another one. No doubt, some cultures value the social piece more than others. Some creatives thrived at CP&B in their heyday, some couldn’t stand it. Some like a quieter work style, others a bit more “noisy”. Figuring out where we “fit” best is one of the biggest journeys everyone takes over a career. If you are lucky, you eventually find a good fit.
Problem is you’re describing things controlled by people and people come in and out of agencies and teams. And the thriving in cp&b in heyday is laughable. That was a sweatshop of frat boys (paraphrasing the documentation) - it’s not culture, it’s personality fit and some leaders lead different personalities. Like a coach, getting the best out of them and finding the right roles, clients, teams. And that doesn’t mean all happy all the time. It’s also a fast path to no diversity or diverse thinking. So to a suggest a change to your last sentence, finding a good boss, mentor is the biggest journey. Culture fit is a lazy leadership trope.
They think you're boring because you don't want to join them in their 'fun' times outside of working hours. Sounds like they value their culture more than the work they do.
You don't need your life outside of work, the agency is your family, remember. 😂
I’ve seen it plenty of times. If you don’t get along with the team or the agency’s way of doing business, you’re not a “good fit.”
It happened to me too. I wasnt a "cultural fit" after winning pitches and creating tons of work bc I expressed my discontent for working 80 hour weeks regularly.
I've heard it before during my career. Whether it was me getting laid off, or someone else. I wouldn't read into it too much. It's just corporate speak. Some vague term companies use to defer for the actual reason you got laid off. And that could be a million different reasons that's within or without your control. So again, not worth thinking about. Also cultural fit is such an outdated term used mostly by dinosaur companies. It sounds like you're joining a cult.
Best thing to do is take some time off to decompress. Think of it as a blessing in disguise. Most times I've been let go it usually results from a place I didn't enjoy working at anyways, and I ended up in a better place earning way more money.
Sucks now, but it'll be a distant memory soon. Best of luck.