How long do I actually need to stay in Big Law before I can get a decent (i.e., not paycut) in house job. I love drafting but I can’t do deal work anymore and I want to have weeknights/weekends.

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I don’t think there is anything out there without a paycut… and the the discrepancy only gets larger the more senior you get save for the big tech companies. So unlikely unless you’re a partner moving into a very, very well-paid GC role, but even then most of those roles want some in-house experience.

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That’s a different question. There are plenty of in-house jobs with minimum $200K comp. You’d likely have a shot at those with 4-5 years of experience.

I moved to FAANG from biglaw as a 6th year and got a pay bump. After almost 4 years in house, my pay is now substantially higher than it would have been had I stayed at the firm (due to stock appreciation). FYI I entered my in house job as an associate counsel and am currently counsel.

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Probably 3 years, but 5+ is more common. I think there are some other non-FAANG tech companies that might have similar comp (Airbnb? Stripe?), and of course if your company goes on a crazy stock run like Tesla you could make much more than you would at a firm.

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From my experience, you will simply never make as much in-house. At a firm, you're a revenue generator. At a company, you're a cost center. Every force in the in-house budget is trying to minimize your impact. Unless you're landing an executive or board member position, there is little chance you won't take a pay cut. And if you're trying for those kinds of positions, legal experience won't serve you that well, and you'll probably need 20 years to really be competitive.

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Au contraire.

I was a millionaire by my fourth year out of law school due to stock options and a SPAC. Unusual.

But, TBH, my salary is less than biglaw for my class year.

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No experience. I went in-house out of law school (mid-size tech firm) and make $190k in year 3.

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My bigger concern would be job security for the no name tech companies. The valuation bubble may pop one day.

YMMV, but 5-7 years is the sweet spot. Banking/finance seems to take people earlier and still pay them well. 0-4 years experience is a junior role, so you will usually trade at a discount.

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One thing to keep in mind, and this is a generalization with exceptions for sure, is it is my sense that the less you do deal work when in house, the more you may be functioning as a cost center rather than driving any value.

I am in house at a debt fund and it’s very transactional. I had to take only a very modest maybe 15 percent total comp cut from being at a law firm, and now I can rely on law firm associates to do all kinds of crap I used to be burdened with like sig pages, checklists etc and focus more on the deal.

If you want a true 9-5 and not doing transactions, you may be paid lower and treated like a cost center.

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Following this.
13 years ago, when I graduated from my Chinese Law school, I decided that I hated the legal industry, so I grabbed an extremely low pay in-house attorney position with amazing WLB.
Later I regretted it. I found that I couldn’t get much training and growth from there.
I struggled for another 9 years as in-house.

Now I graduated from US law school and got the opportunity to live a second life. (Early career is always painful, but I need to go through it twice)
I found that I do enjoy being in the law firm, but I miss WLB a million.

Forever. You will not get an in-house job that matches firm pay, at least in dollars and cents. The work-life balance you will get has value, though, so don't discount it.

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