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Agree with the other comments. Do not back track.
Couple questions:
How early were you in the interview process when you started talking $$$?
What city are you in?
Talking money early in conversations is hard and you’re more likely to price yourself out if you talk in absolutes up front and they have yet to hear your thinking, get people on your side, etc.
If you’re far down the interview process, there’s a reason. People have advocated for you to keep moving forward. if you’re talking money towards the end, if they really like you they’ll either stretch to what you’re asking or will say hey we like you, but that’s a little out of our range and counter.
The reality is if they’re not countering/letting you know it’s too high, they’re either not that into you or money was brought up before you’ve had a chance to prove you’re worth it.
And building off of SBS1’s previous post/my novel above, if they make you go first, always talk in ranges. Not a single figure.
Again, it’s less of an absolute to where it’s both seen as you being open to being flexible with them and gives yourself leeway to go higher in the range if you discover a lot is going to be expected of the person that fills that role
Depends on how senior you are, and where you're at in the interview process. Have you received an offer?
I recommend keeping things vague early on, as you need to understand the details and responsibilities of the specific role. Once it's in reach (or when you get an offer), I think it's acceptable to aim high- although it's best to let them throw out the first number, if possible.
If you have to throw out a number, I say ask for at least $10k more than you think it will ultimately pay.
SCS1 Thanks. I’m entry-level Sr (4 yrs) but could’ve used some peers to bounce my salary off of. I’m not terribly underpaid, I just know I could’ve negotiated like WAY better. Still got a 30k raise over my last job, so...
Years ago with less experience I once asked for 85k... was told that seemed about the range upon initial interview/warmer feelers. (This was too early for them to have asked but I shared anyway).
Shortly after I was told the range was more about 70k and they were sorry they weren’t able to meet my expectations.
I wrote back and said with all things considered I still find value in the opportunity and would like to move forward w the interview process as a candidate.... I was brought back in for 4 more rounds of interviews.... ended up being between 1 other candidate or me and it wasn’t me.
Turned out okay bc I ended up getting 90k at my next position. Anyway all this is to say that if they share w you they aren’t interested due to salary expectations share that you are open to negotiating a lower rate considering the other benefits.
@sbs yes!!! Well done
You should also look at salary data to know if your salary expectations are in line with the industry. As someone who has had to hire I can’t get mad about people wanting to be paid fairly, but I can get mad about having a budget that is unrealistic.
should I email the recruiter to say I’m very flexible or is that overreacting.....
Do NOT do that. That signals weakness. If you're doing well and progressing through the interview process, let it ride. No need to indicate that you're cheap
And so. The battle of wits...has begun.
Thanks everyone! This is super helpful- I may have messed up this one opportunity but now I have a lot more knowledge for the future