I am on 60k and have been working as an Art Director for almost 4 years now. I have bronze lions/shortlists for a couple of campaigns from Cannes. Am I getting a shit deal?

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If those lions are recent (within the last 4 years) and you've had that title for four years AND you're from a decent agency, yes you should go! You are selling yourself short!

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Time for a well earned raise. Ask. Worst is they say no and you shop for a new agency.

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Yup.

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Guys, read the fine print: visa issues. They've got him/her by the balls/labia

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Winning Awards Rule #1: Unless you are already in your dream job, ALWAYS parlay them into a better gig, more money, or ideally, both.

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Congratulations on the lions. Now go double that salary! Get a good recruiter and you will be fine.

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And make sure it isn't creative circle

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Depends on the city. 5 years ago I was at senior level making 90k and I didn't have any of those awards.

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Yes I got them this year. I have been here for a year and a few months and can hardly afford my rent. How do I approach asking for more money considering I asked for that salary when I had visa issues when I joined?

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Absolutely getting screwed. I make 50% more than that as a very high mid-level PM (basically senior without the title, but the pay would also be higher for that title).

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Yeaaaah I know a jr ad who makes 60 + OT

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That's what I made in my first ad job (associate strat). I would jump.

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And s/he asked for that salary. 🤦🏼‍♀️

Wait, you've been there a year or 4 years? And you personally worked on a campaign that earned a lion? What brand?

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You're getting taken for a joke. Move now.

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