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Im not searching for a new job but an acquaintance reached out about a similar role at a similar energy company.Turns out 2 ppl threw my name in the hat. I looked into it and the position was posted 2 weeks ago.Their director wants to meet.I bet pay is one of the first things to be discussed so that no one’s time is wasted.Am I crazy for not wanting to entertain it for less than 20-25% base pay increase?Is it selfish to ask for more? I’m sure most salary conversations end in negotiation anyways?
Have an offer at Citi for 120K as an AVP in the NY office. Currently making 92K at my current role. Is this a fair offer? I currently WFH pretty much full time at my current role but it seems like this one requires 2-3 days in the office - and this is something I’m very hesitant about. Thoughts on how to approach this?
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If you ruined your chances, so be it. That just means something better is on the horizon. If they won't share comp, in my experience, then it probably isn't even worth your time or energy.
You didn't do anything wrong by asking. Some recruiters and hiring managers simply choose to be offended over candidates asking for clarity on the only reason they work in the first place. We aren't looking for jobs as a hobby, we are looking for jobs in exchange for money, and we should be able to know without issue what kind of money we are looking at.
Exactly this, I was encouraged to go for an interview with a company who didn't give their salary/benefits package details, got a second interview, the manager I would have been working for was excited to have me come onboard. Then their HR said they couldn't match my salary and benefits expectations and gave the role to someone else. That person lasted 3 months before their old company ",bought," them back. Then HR had the cheek to contact me and told me they'd match what I wanted.. told them no, if I wasn't right and worth it the first time around I didn't want to join them.
Honestly, I think we forgot that while we want a new job we have to remind ourselves employers want or need us too. Judge these companies the way they judge you. If they’re offended by you asking about the money, usually its because they know the money isn’t really there or its not as much as you should be making. I take these types of situations as an early on red flag. You’re offended by me asking about the money before I get the job, how willing will you be to reward me with more money in the future?
Another thing I’ve learned through my job searches over the years and maybe this will upset people but honestly the 3rd party recruiters when it comes to jobs in the legal industry genuinely kinda suck. Sorry if that’s harsh, but they rarely seem to understand the position or the legal field in general. I can’t tell you how many times I’ve spoke to 3rd party recruiters and I ask them very basic questions and they have no idea. I personally started to avoid them unless its a position I feel is really worth it
Salary is the most important criteria to me. If a company cannot give me a number I will not even talk to them
Someone that has been in HR for several years, salary is not a topic you should bring up on an initial screening. Usually, the recruiter will ask. This should be held further along in the process. If the role does not have a salary attached to the job description, then google or chatgpt it.
mention once you get the offer.
-You're not wrong for wanting a certain salary
-But do YOU know what it takes to get that?
-And CAN/WILL you do it?
We prolly didn't have enough context on this situation. If we know exactly how much is being offered then I myself would be surprise, if there is no posting on how much salary is offered then it's good to negotiate. Let's refrain asking employers to negotiate when posting clearly showed the salary. You can always start your job interview with " Hi, thanks for taking the time to meet me. I did my research and was unable to find any reliable source about an offer for the job, to save both of our time, would you be kind in letting me know the salary rage for the job?" This prevents unwanted negotiation later on, if you don't like the offer, don't proceed, at most times always look for company values. If you really like the job ask the recruiter if they can negotiate after the interview.
The ONLY reason we have jobs is to provide and support our families. If the money didn't matter it wouldn't be a job. It would be a hobby. If a recruiter doesn't understand that YOU NEED TO FIND A DIFFERENT RECRUITER.
Period!!!
Oh, AND GET EVERYTHING IN WRITING UP FRONT BEFOREHAND.
One of the "Red Flags " that I constantly run across, is if the interviewer does not know the pay range for the position. This is one of the few things that makes me want to walk out in mid conversation.
Don't underestimate your self worth. You didn't ruin your chances, they just ruined a good opportunity.
I believe that all jobs should post salary information so that we don't have to ask the question. If not posted within the vacancy, it should definitely be discussed during the interview.
There is a law in one state, I can’t remember which one, any job public or private, that is posted must have a salary range attached to the job.
At the end of the day, we are all working for the paycheck. It’s great if you also love what you do. No one is interested in making less than you are/were and we want to be valued for our experience. Maybe that’s a red flag they were annoyed or it’s possible that that person did not have the information at the time and didn’t handle your inquiry appropriately.
Ya what is about this job.
Depends on how strong your position is. The fact that you’re now concerned that you brought it up suggests that you may not be in a strong enough position to have initiated a compensation discussion.
I disagree. If you have a job and are looking for something that’s one thing. If you’ve been out of work for several months and your funds are running low that’s a different situation.
Yeah that's is cool
Hi everyone my name is Yusuf I really need a job I don't mind anyone no matter its I will do it 🙏
If the purpose of engaging in a business is not visible, why then should I get engaged? We all have visions and our mission to arrive at the destination is nothing but the purchasing power, money!
It may help your chances if you wait for them to make you an offer. Then counter the offer. The recruiter is not equipped to negotiate.
I have been asked about my expectations in a screening interview or at the interview. You did nothing wrong. Just so you know, if you see a wide range for salary or hourly wage, they will likely only pay perhaps $1 more. For example, $20 to $25, they will only pay $21. Don't even apply to those jobs if you are not willing to take less. I think they do that to get people in there.
That is the best time to bring it up. If possible get an email with job description and pay range. Years agoI went through an interview, and received an offer for a 1/3 of the market rate. Their logic was, they were a prestigious company and anyone would be glad to work for them - just not be able to pay their bills.
Another time the rate was right but the responsibilities were that of a level 5 not a level 3, which is what they were hiring.
Just remember it is all in the presentation. At times, recruiters are not allowed to discuss Wages and Benefits. Recruiters meet with you to ask questions and see if you fit the position. You will be given a second and maybe a third interview. Once you receive an offer, you can negotiate your salary with the recruiter. You are the product; sell your experience, leadership, and yourself as an employee. Know about the mission and let the recruiter know why you are interested.
Disagree. It is completely unreasonable to ask - let alone expect - any candidate to commit their time and energy to second and third interviews without the prompt and willing disclosure of the compensation range.
In addition to the time it takes job seekers to complete applications, often including not only basic questions but screening exams, the job application and interview processes often causes anxiety. There is no reason to cause anyone any unnecessary stress or waste their time.
It is disrespectful.
Candidates should never be made to wait for an offer to find out what the salary is. That is utterly ridiculous and often an indication of a bait and switch.