I currently work at a smaller-ish agency (80 people) so I take on more responsibilities than my title might suggest. I will be starting a new role in a few weeks, but at a much larger agency. Even though it's a better title, I already feel overqualified for the position.

What conversations should I have with my new manager to be considered for a promotion within my first year?

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Don’t expect a promotion in less than a year.

You have the responsibility for assessing your experience against a new role, and if you decide to take it knowing you have more experience it should be for exposure at a different place, raise, title etc.

It’s not grounds to walk in and ask for a promotion.

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I dont plan on walking in and asking for a promotion without assessing my own skills against others at my level. If the new job is challenging enough and presents opportunities to grow my own skill set, it's probably the right level for me at this time in my career. But if I'm bored because it's only a fraction of the responsibilities I'm used to, I would like to be prepared to talk with my manager about taking on more with consideration for a promotion.

So this is advice coming from someone who has done what you have done.
Larger organizations have specialists. Smaller agencies have specialists who have learned lots of other things to compensate for lack of resource.
Most of the time in a smaller agency, you don't have someone who can check what you are doing.. So those skills of yours are limited to what you needed and how you needed them to operate.
Essentially, you are in a place where you can't know what you don't know.
Go in with excitement but try and keep in mind that your extra skills are probably not as sharp or diversified as theirs.

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I did the wrong thing --- if I'm honest. I wanted establish that I was helpful. I was a linchpin at my smaller agency and I wanted to be that helpful/capable person in the larger agency.

I offered to support in areas I had low skills but THOUGHT was part of my discipline. I learned fast, that I needed to stay in my department because compared to these specialist I knew nothing. No other strategist was trying to wireframe an example of the strategy.

Brutal? Yes. Career changing? Yes.

The second I learned this, I became an observer to the other departments and focused on MY departments skills.
Keep an open mind, observe, and try to keep silent about stuff not aligned to your discipline.

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Punch above your weight and keep track of any wins/outcomes to make a strong case for promotion at your next review

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Set up a quarterly check-in with your manager to keep communication open and so they’re aware of your ambitions and you can both talk about what you’d need to do to get there.

Check in with HR/recruitment to see how promotions are processed as well- sometimes they have specific process boxes they want checked.

And yeah, don’t get your hopes up for anything in less than a year.

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