I dont need a data scientist. I need someone with more technical skills than a traditional business analyst but not necessarily the full data science suite.

What would you call that role?

Gartner calls it Citizen Data Scientist and I think thats stupid.

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“Advanced Analytics” is a term I like

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I like that, Advanced Analytics Associate or something like that.

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Analytics translator is a name McKinsey came up with for people who were equal parts deep in business and data science.
My buddy wrote their piece on it, think it’s pretty good.

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Thank you for this, I am reading some of their articles on it

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So you need a data scientist but can’t pay for it? Then get a business analyst and train them 🤷🏻‍♂️

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There are other roles but I’m sure you’re aware, and that’s MLOps, the business value that brings is that each data science team doesn’t reinvent the wheel every time a new model needs to make it to production. I’m in that field, most of us are not business oriented we are mostly technical folks from a software background. The reason I bring that up is because you mentioned you need support for data scientists, and that’s typically the backbone of DS/ML teams.

Technical business analyst, data analyst, or just a regular business analyst (with SQL/analytical expectations)

Big tech has been calling these positions “Data Science, Analytics”

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I’m doing my part!

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We call it a data analyst.

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Data analyst or analytics engineer

Also, there are many data scientists doing work a business analyst would traditionally take up

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You're looking for a data analyst. Someone with decent applied statistics, but less of the computer science and math found in data scientists. Graduates from Masters programs in business analytics would fit the bill. 2 more ways these roles are different, they often need data sets prepared for them, and they are doing analysis that is not going to a production system.

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Business Scientist

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Nahhh that’s weird! It sounds like PhD people doing search on management stuffs

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It’s stupid but it’s a common job title nowadays

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Maybe something like senior Data Analyst? 🤷‍♂️

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Nope 😂

Can’t see the pic clearly. What’s the difference between a citizen ds and ds? I am a ds. Just wanna see if I am a citizen

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I tend to focus on a different distinction:
- business analyst can draw insights from data or models, and can tell if a model is totally broken but not build or deeply critique and diagnose their flaws
- data scientist can build snazzy models, as well as wrapper functions and utilities to make the modeling process more efficient. May enjoy experimenting with techniques more than actually perfecting models - and get a little bored if the best models for the task don’t turn out to scratch their itch for trying cool new techniques
- people in between who know enough stats and coding to build, critique and actively refine models are valuable whether or not they are labeled as DS. This could be one definition of citizen DS
- But all too often people labeled as citizen DS are actually just glorified BAs who can’t code, can only build models in datarobot, and can’t tell if a model is actually robust or just superficially performant on a badly specified test

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Senior data analyst. Tbh most firms just call it a data scientist.

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Interested, can I dm you?

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Data engineer

Data engineer and data scientist paths are very different. DEs rarely have the statistics and probability knowledge a junior data scientist needs.

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OP, I’m interested to learn more. Can I DM you?

Thank you. I’ve sent you a message

Analytic consultant + for internal team = internal analytics consultant?

Data scientist/business analyst adjacent 🤣

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