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I have an offer from PWC as an Associate and for EY as a Senior Consultant (financial services). I have a feeling PWC is better culture wise and with WLB but not exactly sure what things are like at EY. Can anyone give some insights on what the culture and WLB is like within these companies? Not exactly sure what decision to make. I’m leaning more towards EY because of title upgrade, comp package and the nature of the work but I’m also scared because of WLB and culture concerns. EY PwC

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The expectations of you will be very different as an associate at one and senior at the other. While the firms may not be different, the situation you are stepping into should be very different and you presumably will be able to get through the associate work much quicker so that could certainly impact WLB

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This is a good point. I genuinely don’t mind working long hours (60-70) a lot of the time, I just want to be in an organisation that will at least acknowledge and appreciate it. And I know that’s dependent on the team but that’s where my head is at. To your point, I think I’ll do better at the associate position because the expectation is different than for a senior role but I also want to work and grow.

When it comes to WLB there’s not much sense comparing between Big4. Everyone here is just going to project their own experience on the entire company. I think it depends much more on: 1) The specific Partner you are working for 2) The client 3) Type of work 4) Your coworkers You will find good and bad ones for all of the above. Try to surround yourself with the right ones and you will be fine. Have you had a chance to talk to similar level staff in both potential future teams about their experiences?

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Thanks SM1, I have spoken to both teams and they seem good. PwC team seemed pretty chilled and easy going and EY team seemed a little too serious and intense (it’s a technical role so I’m surprised). No red flags but I’m definitely more afraid to challenge myself with the EY role because of some imposter syndrome.

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Culture and WLB is bad at all Big4

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I’ve worked at both. Same ish different brands. Take the money and title.

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Counter PwC offer with the offer from EY and ask for Senior Associate. At that point it will be all things equal then I would say pwc. But as things stand EY

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EY has way better wlb than PwC

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What do u do pwc17?

Lol @ WLB

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Just know that if you’re coming into any big 4…WLB is nonexistent right now.

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PwC sux. Go to E&Y.

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Take the title and comp. You can jump to another B4 a year from now if you don’t like EY and want to stick in B4

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EY technology is trash, and PwC has a better culture. And you won’t have to go to the office not sure about EY on that.

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I worked at both and hated it at EY you get way more perks than EY.

Suggest you make the decision based on who you will be working with.

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I just don’t know who I’ll be working with yet. From the interviews, I’ll say PwC folk seemed pretty laid back and EY folk seemed pretty serious and intense which makes sense because it’s a technical field. I didn’t really get bad vibes from any team.

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WLB all depends on the project you’re on. Take the higher comp and title bump. You can always transfer over to PwC in a few months if you don’t like it. Dm me if you’d like

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Honestly just really depends on the practice and team. Both are pretty much the same.

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PwC is really stretched thin for people right now so the WLB isn’t what it used to be. All B4 are relatively the same. I would say PwC is a bit more focused on the propaganda and culture building. Go for the place with the better pay and title. It’s all the same

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Heard from a friend who joined EY few years ago (pre-covid) that they put target pressure on you starting orientation. Quoting "10-15%" of you will be let go due to poor performance.

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D1, that simply isn’t true. And 10-15% layoffs impossible. That attrition is people putting in their 2-weeks notice, not because of performance

There’s really no wlb at either and as far as culture goes everything is still remote so that’s a moot point

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Pwc always does that they hire you on below what u deserve

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Thanks P1, ended up going EY. Seemed like a no brained the more I talked about it

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Choose PwC, i worked in EY too worst WLB and culture, PwC is improving and taking care of employees now

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This ain’t it

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EY 1 and 2, thanks for the insight. How do you like the flexible PTO plan?

I personally have never had an issue with scheduling and taking my PTO. I’m also the type to plan vaca’s 3-6 months in advance so I think that helps

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Can you share your EY offer with Pwc? See if they counter?

I plan to do this but highly doubt PwC will come close.

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