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I want my husbands parental leave to match mine so he can heeeeeeelp
Pro
I just want mine to be good!!! Doesn’t bother me if men get it also, why should it?
Conversation Starter
The idea behind it being the same is so that in the future there is no primary caregiver and responsibilities are more evenly split
That’s up to you and your relationship, other individuals may decide that’s not what they want, but if you want to make it happen, it’s completely on you
Rising Star
Plus it’s better for the kiddo to have equal exposure to both parents. Bonding. Dispatching typical gender role biases. All that woke shit.
I think it should be equal for child care giving purposes. But anyone who gives birth needs additional time for medical recovery. It’s wild that people seem to forget it’s either a major trauma and/or surgery on your body.
Chief
I mean, don't they usually?
That is unbelievable… Cruel is the right word!
Bold statement go easy PWC..
Conversation Starter
Both should get the same amount and it should be wayyyyy longer than it currently is.
Enthusiast
My opinion is that it’s much more difficult on the women’s body (assuming that the primary care taker delivered the baby) and they need time to adjust as well as its hard on the body to breastfeed. I also think that some primary care takers do not have a significant other and are raising the child on their own or the spouse doesn’t have parental leave (such as them being in school) so i think because of that parental leave should be skewed for the primary taker.
Conversation Starter
The leave we get is determined by the employer, and most still have longer leave for birthing parent than partner right? Is it the same at PwC? Obviously if the two parents work at different firms their leave would be subject to the different HR rules of their companies.
Chief
Why?
Enthusiast
Is it because it takes a harder physical toll on women?
Rising Star
@ c1 ah, i see. I added my last response before i saw your most recent.
I saw some on this thread and in the women’s bowl that were disappointing in that they felt parents shouldn’t get any leave bc having a kid is a choice. No one is as aggressive here, but it was brutal. There are a lot of cruel minded people out there when it comes to this sort of thing.
This gets into so many weird places.
So, if you have a gay partnership, do they both get equal? Or do we just give lesbians a lot of leave, and gay men a lower level?
If you follow my point, then gender isn't a clear/strong proof of being a primary care-taker, the only other way to suss that out is asking people.
The problem there is simple: Do you really think many people are going to give up leave and say "No, my partner is the primary care-taker, you can reduce my benefits"
No matter what it's a mess, and TBH, I suspect that it's easier to avoid drama rather than wade into all of that crap.
(And my husband could get the same, to be clear; we overlapped a bit but he chose to take less for other reasons).
Baby bonding yes, but having a baby is a medical experience. Birth parents need extra time just to recover from labor & delivery
Primary care taker can be a man?
Is that a genuine question? 🤔
Rising Star
Yes and we should also get period days each month 😀
But then you’ll complain that women have to do all the caretaking and lose on experience which lowers their salary
Unconnected (to leave; obvs very connected to misogyny): man here, took a year off for kid; was fine.
Disagree. Primary caregiver needs help and support too right?
Why are you sexist and a misandrist?