If I were a recruiter, I feel like I’d actually respect candidates who ask for more because I think it shows confidence and awareness of their value. But I’ve always wondered if recruiters actually feel that way, or do they find it frustrating when people push back on offers? Any recruiters out there or have you experienced a good/bad response from a recruiter?

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The thing to keep in mind about recruiters is that they're not necessarily loyal to the person seeking the job. They earn their commission for filling the position, and dealing with someone who is making salary demands that could be challenging is quite obviously a problem from their standpoint. I suppose a candidate can ask for more compensation within reason, but there's would be a point at which a recruiter will determine that someone else is a better fit for the job.

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Are you talking about an internal or external recruiter? If external the issue is usually they get paid when you are hired and also have to stay at the company a certain length. Its an art getting you enough to where your happy so you stay long enough for them to get paid while also being what the company is willing to pay.

The same potential conflict can arise that happens with a realtor. If you have a job offer for 100 k and they make 5% of your first year salary but you want 110k. They would prefer you accept the 100k since the 10k is worth a lot to you and recurring. But it’s only 500 more for them at the potential cost of losing 5,000. Most people with that risk/ reward would take the 5k.

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True. Usually if they've gone through to the final stage they're quite serious. A recruiters job should be to test interest along the way and only candidates who are ready to join for the right offer reach that point. It protects everyone's time. Unfortunately many recruiters think about it the wrong way and want to push candidates through.

Maybe you should have posted in "Ask a Recruiter".

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Oh. Didn’t know there was such a group. Will check it out.

Many recruiters get paid a percentage of your starting salary. So, the more money they can get you the better for them.

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I did and I got crickets or dirty looks multiple times.

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After recruiting for 20 years, we negotiate offers before the offer is made. Too much can go wrong if offers are countered after the fact. Manage expectations on both sides early and often - at final stage: Establish genuine interest - address any and all concerns - pre agree what it will take to make the hire on both sides without pushing either side too high or low - close.

Bear in mind on the client side: retention factors - if the offer is low there's a higher chance of the candidate getting better offers or exploring other options and leaving early. This is a big cost for companies. They also need to consider pay equity in the team if a candidate is asking for far above what the rest of the team is on, they need to make the decision to increase everyone's salary, lose the candidate etc.

Bear in mind on the candidate side: the company has other options and pushing too high could tip the balance towards other 'better value' candidates.

It might frustrate recruiters if they know the company is at the top of their budget, putting their best foot forward with the offer, have other strong candidates asking for the same or less, or it's come up as a last minute surprise. On the other hand, it might help to push up their fee. Either way, as a candidate, it's best to be upfront about your expectations, other salary ranges of other roles you're exploring, and generally managing expectations and having open conversations with the recruiter throughout the process.

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