In biglaw and have always wanted to go in-house. Finally got an offer I couldn’t be more thankful for, but having reservations about leaving the firm life. Is this normal? How did you ultimately decide to make the move in-house?

likehelpful
Posting as :
works at
You are currently posting as works at

It is absolutely normal. I think anytime you make a move, you wonder whether or not it is right for you.

I would say it is far more likely than not that you will be happy. Even if job number one is not for you, with in-house experience, you will likely find another position that you enjoy.

like

I’m in the same boat and also just got a great in-house offer. Putting in notice toward month end, but I can’t fully shake some of the nerves about whether it is the right move for sure.

Some of the key factors for me in deciding to accept were: a competitive total comp package (~$340k, inclusive of 401k matching), young child at home, accepting that I do not want to do what is necessary to make partner at my firm (I’m a 6th year now, so expectations and schedule craziness would go up from here if I stayed), and the need for greater predictability in my schedule and willingness to sacrifice some comp to get that predictability in house.

like

You can (and should) use bureaucracy to your advantage. If there’s no intake system, make a template you need them to fill out to engage you (not a Word doc, just the body of an email). Save it as an email signature so you can send it with 1 click. Reward those who follow the process, “punish” those who deviate.

Your ramp up period is a great time to get a lay of the land, learn who you need to escalate topics to, and see inefficiencies in the system (both in ways things are cumbersome & in ways that business partners have been incentivized to be a PITA).

like

It’s worth it!

like

What's the role/scope?

helpful

I ran and didn't look back

like

I felt this same way but remember that you decided to submit applications and interview for a reason or many reasons. Think back to those to remind yourself what you're trying to escape or run toward - that was a helpful exercise for me when I was in doubt

like

Are you taking a big pay cut? What's the reservation?

The job is OFTEN to provide “good enough” feedback, on a tight timeline, to adverse parties (even though y’all are supposed to be on the same team).

The “legal” aspects are hands down the easiest part. It’s more about client control and having strong EQ.

like

If you’re junior enough, you may regret it later. I did and have moved back to private practice. The grass isn’t always greener. Be sure it’s what you want.

Limited upward mobility, all the higher up roles (like GC) were held by lawyers who had close to 10 years of BL experience. I felt like I was treated like a paralegal sometimes. Also, my knowledge of the market just wasn’t on the same level as lawyers who’d stuck it out longer in a firm.

I got laid off so the choice was made for me, but I'm infinitely happier in house!

I had already spent a few years at another firm and wanted to try a more radical change in environment. Truly feels like a different job, in a good way.

Related Posts

Is the salary hike percentage solely based on Rank/rating ? Will there be any consideration for the qualification ?

like

Can someone recommend some marketing and design blogs? I am working on a project and my creative juices just aren't flowing.

like

Has anybody working in ubs worked from India being a ux designer. Is there a trick to it

Hello all, I work full time as an RN at the VA. I’ve been looking for a side hustle to do on my own time. I would love to review cases such as prior authorization, records for 2nd opinions, etc. The positions that I come across generally require a commitment of at least 24 hrs which is not feasible. Anyone know of any opportunities?

like

Hi folks ,
I applied in siemens through there website the application is showing in progress since two weeks . How much time it take to hear from them . Should I reach out to them

like

Im getting screen for a NFL business Analyst with Amazon . What will that assessment look like? What should I expect? And how did you guys and gals prepare for the WORK SIMULATION and A WORK STYLE portions of the assessment? Please help!

like

Hello from sunny Florida !

like

Does anyone know anybody coming from the Merit America IT Support program that have been successful in their roles? This is a career change for me and I'm worried that employers won't be patient while I learn or that IT teams will be overloaded and I won't have a proper mentor.

helpful

Need one help.
How much starting level Analytics Managers are making with YOE and org? Will help me evaluate my current offer.

like

Is luxoft really offer permanent work from home?
Is it good for work life balance?
They offering 21 LPA for 8 yes, is it good?

Please give suggestions..

like

Any recommendations for personal trainers in Atlanta? How much do people typically pay per session/month?

like

If you were to articulate the relationship between change management and value realization, how would you do so? To your mind, is change management responsible for value realization? If so, how do?

like

Best stock to buy right now that no one is talking about for a long term hold?

like

Hi

We have openings in Accenture Mumbai Customer service roles for voice process

UK shift
Rotational Shifts and off
Immediate joining

If you or someone else is looking out for a job please let me know.

like

First time posting here! I have been tasked with creating a military leave differential pay policy and was curious if anyone would be willing to provide any resources. Thanks!

Deloitte India vs Deloitte USI.
Please answer if you have worked for both and have significant first hand experience about the difference in WLB, annual hikes, work culture, any other observations.
I see a lot in of this same discussion but very confusing and repetitive answers.
So would like people with personal experience to answer.
Thanks in advance 😃

Looking for a professional backpack for travel/work, any suggestions?

like

Non-tech person here: does anyone know how to download salesforce icons that can be used in PPT?

Hello fishes,i just finished my undergrad in april 2022 and I'm looking for entry level jobs preferably in finance and consulting.Please hit me up if you have any referrals😄

like

Additional Posts in In-House Counsel

Can anyone help me wrap my head around this post Series C start-up equity offer? It’s an IP director position, the the base is $170 with 10% bonus (both lower than I was expecting). There’s also an equity component: 0.15% of current fully diluted equity. This equates to about 30000 shares at a strike price of $2. They also indicate the preferred stock price is $6 and preferred stock equity is $188k (whatever that means). They are in the middle of a new financing and valuation round.

like

Trying to understand risk of loss and title better. When does it make sense for title to transfer upon receipt of payment? Why would title and risk transfer separately?

like

Does your company use a ticketing system to manage emails received by the legal department? What works and doesn’t work your team?

like

Would you say most in-house roles tend to hire from BigLaw?

like

Are there any industries where in-house hours are generally worse/better?

like

I’m entering salary negotiations at a Fortune 500 company and am looking for trustworthy resources for salary data that I can share with the company if they ask where I got my numbers. I know Glassdoor, but what else?

like

I’m a new contracts lawyer and am trying to learn how to harmonize indemnification with LOL. Any tips or resources? I know this is a broad question, but would appreciate any direction on what questions to ask when reviewing a K to do this.

like

In house interview- I am going to hopefully the final round of interview to meet the whole legal team. I was asked about my availability, and it will take 5 hours if in one day. Should I split to multiple days? Will it cause any issues? Anyone on both sides can speak from their experience? Thanks!

like

My company cut staff to 4 days/wk to save funds. I was getting requests from coworkers for docs needed urgently on our day off (fridays). I would oblige them. But then, I learned that those same coworkers had been put back to 5 days because they were deemed “essential“. I felt foolish and decided to stop working on fridays. One EVP (not the GC) in particular has been aggressively texting/calling me on fridays. How Do I tactfully respond? My out-of-office email is not enough of a hint...

like

What is work-life balance like in big tech legal? I’m currently in house at a large multinational; I like my job and I get paid fine, with a very good WLB (40-45 hrs). I want to look into FAANG-type opportunities as they would mean a huge pay bump, and I think I’m qualified, but I have no idea about the hours, and I don’t want to substantially give up WLB, as that’s why I left BigLaw. I don’t want to be miserable again. I know Amazon is poorly reputed for lawyer WLB… what about other places?

like

How is productivity measured for in-house attorneys? Is there any analog of billable hours for in-house lawyers?

like

Currently working on a three person team in a larger GC group. I lateraled from a different group that did not pay attorneys on an attorney scale. I’m stuck in my old pay scale but have gotten promotions and raises quickly with more on the horizon. A recruiter reached out with a new role for 2-2.5x more than I currently make doing something similar. I love my company and the people I work with but the money isn’t there. Is it worth trying to get a counter to stay if I get the bigger offer?

like

Any downsides to leaving a “Counsel” role and moving into a “Legal Affairs” role? Still practicing and representing the company, just a difference of titles, so core work remains the same - what do you think?

like

Working Moms/Dads: Do in-house positions exist with flex time hours? I need to be able to leave work at 4pm to pick up my son from daycare, but i can get back online at home to resume any unfinished work at 8pm. Is this realistic to convey to any companies in an interview? Pandemic aside, is face time 9-7pm really important? Or should i just try to find a job with a salary that covers a nanny salary and accept that i will never see my son on weekdays (which would be sad for both of us)? TIA!

like

What do you do to prep for an interview with the hiring manager? If it’s a new industry for you, do you research applicable laws/regulations?

likesmart

Hello, hoping for some input on how to time a job change. At a startup - we are doing well now but unless we have complete turnover in management I don’t think we have a bright future post-COVID. I could coast here 1-2 years before having to look. I’ve been here for a little under a year. This is my second in house job after 10 years at the same firm. The market is hot now, probably won’t be in 1-2 years and I am getting interest for good roles. OTOH I don’t want to look like a job hopper.

like

Considering joining a small 50-person company as the only attorney (prior attorney is retiring). (I am currently in-house at a F50). For others who have done the same path, what surprises did you have when moving from a large company to a small one?

For example, it sounds like I should not expect a document management system, based on a prior post in this bowl. I’m guessing expenses like state bar fees and cell phone are not reimbursed.

Any advice on things to expect (or not expect)?

like

How long did it take you to find the right position the first time you went in-house? I am 5 months into it and regretting turning down the (lowball) offer I got a couple months ago.

like

Any product counsel for AI-related companies here?

like

For those who work in-house, did you submit a cover letter with your application?

like

New to Fishbowl?

Download the Fishbowl app to
unlock all discussions on Fishbowl.
That was just a preview…
Sign Up to see all discussions
  • Discover what it’s like to work at companies from real professionals
  • Get candid advice from people in your field in a safe space
  • Chat and network with other professionals in your field
Sign up in seconds to unlock all discussions on Fishbowl.

Already a user?
Login here

Share

Embed this post

Copy and paste embed code on your site

Preview

Download the
Fishbowl app

See what’s happening in your industry
from the palm of your hand.

A phone with Fishbowl app

Scan your QR code to download
Fishbowl app on your mobile

Download app

Sign up for free to view this conversation on Fishbowl

By continuing you agree to Terms of Use and Privacy Policy

Already have an account? Log in

Sign up for free to continue using Fishbowl

By continuing you agree to Terms of Use(New) and Privacy Policy(New)
Messaging rates may apply

Already have an account? Log in

For account settings, visit Fishbowl on Desktop Browser or

General

Legal