Interested in becoming a Google cloud product manager. Here are my observations on the experience you will need to be considered.

Here are my observations about the skills and experiences that PMs have and how people are joining that group.

They are all technical. All of them could easily be very technical cloud consultants or cloud engineers.
Tl/Dr. If you couldn't get hired as a cloud engineer or cloud consultant - you probably can't become a PM

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A large number of people are joining the PM group as lateral transfers from internal positions


People are joining from other highly technical groups.  


From the PSO org they are being drawn from the niche roles.  security, data engineering, AI/ML, Application development, networking, etc


From the sales org they are coming from the same groups.   


The easy way to spot the difference between sales and PSO roles is that niche tech sales role append the word specialist to the end of the job description.   

PSO roles end with word consultant


If you join Google and plan to do the lateral transfer.  You need to be at the top of your class.  You also need a top reputation.   Developing those two things takes about 2 years.

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Your insight is extremely helpful OP

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+1, great accurate insights

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Hi OP, do you have any insight on PM qualifications for other groups?

From what I am seeing Google cloud is the most open / easiest to join of all the alphabet companies.

I am assuming that the other project mgrs....especially the ones in nature business have more stringent PM requirements or are looking for more experienced PMs

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Very helpful. What's PSO again?

Thanks ! Can you clarify what do they actually help with ? Are these folks cloud architects, project managers , sales folks or all of them ?

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