Is it reasonable to expect the recruiter to tell me whether this role can pay X (my desired number)? Just had a recruiter tell me the firm doesn’t give a max number (after giving me a lower range than my current comp), so if I go in and blow their mind maybe that’s possible. Is this BS? Don’t want to waste my time or theirs

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So recruiters often are told not to tell candidates the salary so that they can low ball them and also to get candidates in the door it’s a time waste for many candidates.

On the other hand when I get recruiters I often say what my desired range is 15-20 percent more than what I’m on and can they meet that expectation if they tell me no then I thank them for their time and then ask them to keep me in mind for a more suitable role if they won’t tell me I thank them for their time close the chat and block their number or email.

The difference being if they can’t meet the expectation but they are honest then they can be helpful in the future if they can’t tell me or refuse to tell me until after the interview I can’t trust you as you are ok with wasting my time and the hiring managers time. They get paid by finding candidates and getting candidates hired. I do question them sometimes like is it helpful wasting my time because if I get to the end and then the offer is the same or less than my current wouldn’t you have wasted everyone’s time?

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At my bank recruiters don't determine the compensation of the candidate. Once an offer is going to be made the hiring manager uses guidelines within a range and other factors like the experience of the candidate, what others are being paid in similar role and more to determine the number then it goes up the chain for approval where it can be adjusted. My guess is he does not know because at that point because it is it of his hands. He can just give estimates

Yeah they would, they usually know the budget/range but may not always allude to it depending on whether they're trying to catch you out. I'm always upfront about salaries just because there's no point in wasting time on this stuff

I'd tell them outright what my minimum salary expectation is (and like a previous commenter said, I go around 20-25% higher than what I'm currently making). They'll either tell you they're willing to negotiate, or they'll tell you they can't go that high (or even come close). Either way, you'll know early on so you don't waste your time or theirs. Transparency is key.

Recruiters can NEVER be trusted!!

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They're not going to change your rate once you start billing for another. I have never seen that ; VERY rare that would even be considered. Recruiters like to sub you at a low rate because if you get hired at the rate they sub you at, you bill more for them and they get higher commission.

It all depends on the company but I think the recruiter doesn't want to tell you the salary range. I think they want to know more about you first to assess your salary.

I think the recruiter should be transparent with you and should definitely have a defined salary range for the role already in place. If the recruiter does not want to meet your salary expectations, you can try negotiating on other aspects of the package like benefits, stocks, etc.

If this happened to me and they already gave me a lower range, I won't waste my time negotiating anymore.

That depends on the company. But most recruiters would offer the lowest rate. Just based on my experience.

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