My first time applying and getting an offer for a job posting without a salary on it, aka non-government job. $21k below what I currently make and $3k below the minimum I told them- I went for a job with a bigger title and more responsibility. Other companies need to learn from government jobs. Today I’m loving that my current government job appreciates my worth.

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You told them what you wanted, but did you confirm you both were in the same ballpark?

Thank you for this, it’s very helpful! I just don’t understand the secrecy about these types of conversations until an offer has been made. The closest we got to that conversation is “our pay is competitive”. With that that said, I appreciate your advice to approach this topic earlier and in more detail.

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