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NO. Nothing about having children warrants that you should receive more of ANYTHING—especially since the rest of us subsidize your kids in countless ways.
I did. My taxes are now half what they were in NJ. 😜
Just because someone is childless/decides to be childfree does not mean they deserve less
PwC1
lol are you serious? I’m single and have much better things to do with my time like travel. So I deserve more PTO than someone staying at home.
No! We did this to ourselves.
From,
A parent of 2
Based.
Having a child is a choice.
Well if we’re going to be nihilistic then it shouldn’t be an issue what the compensation structure is, or even if there’s benefits at all.
No I don’t think so. I don’t think that justifies someone getting more pto than someone without kids. Everyone has their own personal life
No, I don't think so. 'Childless' workers also usually have other hectic things going on in their lives. Life isn't easier or less busy for them.
When did workers agree to be expected to work outside of normal work hours?
Absolutely not. Especially as someone who’s first generation: a lot of the support I would give kids goes to my family (parents, grandparents, nieces/nephews, etc)
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As a perpetual bachelor with no children…
Why not?
I’m serious, why not? We allow Smokers to take extra breaks throughout the day because of their habit.
I’d be open to considering an ancillary PTO schedule for someone who has children and claims them on taxes. Would be something along the lines of X additional hours per year of service, with a cap of Y days. This way you are promoting people having a family while being actively employed. All the while you are controlling the possible runaway costs.
Now, that said, absolutely zero chance of my employer even considering the proposal. I’d have better luck getting time on calendars to pitch my onsite Child/Puppy Daycare concept…
PwC: Yes—it’s the “equity” that firms like yours and mine worship so deeply.
In fact, people with should be paying more per child for health insurance. As things stand now, families with multiple kids pay the same premium as those with one kid.
It works that way for some health plans
No...you already get some benefit with kids in excess...for instance I have 1 kid but I could have another 3 or 4 and not pay anymore for insurance than I do now.
Now have I low key been like -wish I got as many breaks as the moms pumping some days...yes...but that was just a fleeting im jealous you have a legit reason to tap out so often..because ER sucks some days. 🙃
It was a joke who peed in your Cheerios
1. No, the employee is the one on your payroll, not their family.
2. However, we could make different life stage benefits available to employees to support many situations. Student loan repayments help younger workers but not older ones. A childcare stipend would help those with families but not without. A stipend for taking care of elderly relatives would help certain others. First home purchase assistance could help yet others. Et cetera. One could have a variety of employee resources that would not all be used by everyone, but would be available to everyone as needed.
No
Not more pto, but budget should be spent on things that benefit everyone like a greater contribution towards health insurance etc and less towards the pet insurance and mindfulness app bullshit that the younger and childless often push for.
Nobody is pushing for funds to be spent on a mindfulness app
How would having employees with children and/or large families benefit a company? Benefits coverage is provided for various reasons, all of which have a business case - health insurance to encourage employees to remain healthy and subsequently avoid absenteeism that can cost a company money with no advantage, retirement contributions to encourage regular attrition and maintain a diverse workforce, continuing education to keep the workforce skilled and up-to-date in their fields.
There is absolutely no business case for a company to encourage/reward employees for deciding to have children. OP, ask yourself why employees with children (who likely work fewer hours than those without children just due to the demands of having a family) deserve more from the same employer than employees without children?
No. None of what you said is at all what I said. My point is that there is not a business case from a company’s perspective for providing more benefits to employees with children than those without. I’d refer you to the original post, which said “Should people with children be getting more benefits than those without?”
I guess your answer to the original question is yes, employees who are parents should get more benefits than their non-parent peers. And the business case you seem to be stating is that by having employees with large families, the company benefits because they can hire those kids someday? I don’t think that’s a great business case myself. But hey, run your company however you want. You and I disagree. That’s all.
Yes, they should. Women mothers should also get much higher salaries.
The child-free folks might feel like they're getting the short end of the stick. They're putting in the same hours, facing the same deadlines, but they don't have those adorable little faces (and accompanying expenses) to justify the extra benefits. It could create a bit of resentment, like a bitter office feud in "The Parent Trap."
Nope
Super biased
Is this a trick question equating “PTO” to parental leave and “stipend” to the backup care or other discounts, IVF etc?
While I believe we should all get same PTO, I also believe new parents should get leave. Resulting in more time off for parents yes.
Also believe in supporting growing families with discounts, backup care, IVF, adoption etc which would result in more $ technically for parents. But all these benefits are equally available to all employees.
A1: And the fucked up thing about our workforce is that you think it's totally normal to work late in the evening when baseball games and school plays would happen.