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At your level they would likely provide a slight bump to your current pay. You can try to negotiate but sometimes it’s hard to get much more when you don’t have much experience
It terms of benefits, you’ll likely work on larger clients and if you do well you’ll get to see more complex issues. Big 4 pay is usually slightly higher as well once you climb up the ladder and make manager/sr manager/partner.
For downsides - if your in a larger market, big 4 typically will push you to work more hours. This is highly dependent on group though.
It doesn’t hurt to interview to see what they have to offer. Worst case you just tell them no.
Chief
KPMG’s norm for non-B4 is to bring S1s in as an A2, but pay them S1 salary. Seen this for multiple friends both in my business unit and outside of it.
It helps you in the long run because you’ll be evaluated on the competencies of an associate, rather than a senior, while getting paid as a senior. Where if you got brought in as a senior, you’d be judged as a senior while learning new methodologies and systems.
People from other B4 can usually insist on coming in as senior if they want. RSM might be big enough if you push it, but if they offer you experienced A2 with senior pay, I’d take it.
Yeah ain’t no way I wanna be a staff again.
Do the interviews. What's the worst that can happen? Then ask for a 20-30% bump. Again, what's the worst that can happen? Pay is more important than title.
Do the interviews, don’t tell them what your current comp is. Do tell the other firms about other offers and ask them to meet / beat
Interview for a job when you don’t need it coz then you have an upper hand when negotiating. So go for it! Good luck!
Do the interviews. You don’t need to worry about salary until the offer is on the table. I just moved from RSM to KPMG right as I got my promotion from associate to senior. And I retained the senior title and a salary to show for it. (I moved from assurance to advisory)
I think it’s perfectly ok to think about it.
If you’re a senior already, do not see EY bringing you in as associate. Wouldn’t make sense especially given intense need for seniors. As for pay, I say go into the interview and see what they offer - you have negotiation power here. No harm in it IMO
They will increase ur pay to get u in the door then short change you on bonus, promotions and raises down the road usually using the bump in pay as the excuse of u being above market.
But even by that measure, would be getting paid a lot more a lot sooner.
Chief
What service line ?
I did what PWC1 said. It’s lit. I’m also in Paris on vacation via the bonus money lol
Want to interview at Deloitte too? :) we would bring you as a new senior matching your current title. We staff you the first 8-12 weeks like an experienced staff to get you acclimated to our systems and methods.
Deloitte 2 leading others to treasure he/she cannot possess.
Update to all - I’ve got the interviews splitter for next Monday! Anyone have a suggestion on what would be a reasonable salary ask for switching? Currently making 74k
Bay area better be giving 95 for that cost of living, my goodness
Resume for future significantly improved with KPMG or EY on resume . Think of creating off balance sheet asset . This is an asset you can cash in many different ways down the road .
Demand is crazy and it’s candidates market. Don’t hesitate to ask for a significant bump. I am interviewing a ton of candidates and ey is willing to pay numbers that I haven’t seen before for seniors. Crazy.
Too bad they won’t pay their current seniors those crazy pay numbers
Want to come to Ey, DM me !
Currently working with RSM consultants and they do basically 0 work with 0 deliverables and log off at 3:30 every day….
Stay at RSM if you value work life balance
lol no
Do it. Your opportunity in the big four is greater. Seriously. Go.
Team! I got my first offer from EY, full transparency I was hoping it would come in a couple thousand higher but it’s still a 12% increase from my current rate. Need advice round two here…do I accept the offer or try to negotiate for a little higher? Does it look bad if I’m really sending something back for like a $2k increase?
They won’t blink at that. If they say no to it in salary ask for it in signing bonus.
But where are you in the Deloitte process. :) wait for that offer!