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Hi Guyz,
Any one from IBM ?
I went through the entire recruitment process and got selected for IBM ISL. Now I am being told by the HR that they are unable to release offer as there is a hiring freeze.
Can any one please tell me if its correct or just an excuse not to give me offer. If its true, when will this freeze be removed?
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I recently interviewed with MITRE for a systems engineering role to make the move from Leidos where I feel underpaid for the work I do and for my experience ($85K). I have 4 YOE, a STEM degree, and soon will have a Masters Degree. I’m looking to make around $120K in the new role at Mitre. Does anyone have any insight into comp there? This would be in the DC metro area. Does $120K seem reasonable or am I dreaming?
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I write this sitting on the train on my 1:45 hr commute... money isn't everything, my friend.
@BorgWarner there are some points to your critique of capitalism, but this really isn’t the place for them. Regardless of the level of your position, there will always be a time/money tradeoff. Different inflection points in your life can make the decisions around those tradeoffs go different ways, or make them more difficult, but there’s nothing inherently VP or executive-level about the dilemma described, nor was VP (in my opinion) entitled in their approach to the question.
This could just as easily be a question from a server at a suburban restaurant asking if it’s worth the better tips and longer hours to commute in to a more upscale restaurant in the city.
This job requires a commitment of an extra 20 hours per week, which amounts to 1,040 hours a year, not to mention the added mileage and gas costs. It's crucial to evaluate if this time investment is worthwhile and to consider what other parts of your life might be impacted by this role. In the end, it boils down to personal comfort: some individuals enjoy driving and are fine with it, while others would not prefer it.
I would take a pay cut any day to have a short commute and/or more days to works from home. I want to live every day, not wait until the weekend. Not exactly the same but I took a financial systems consulting job years ago during three years. Lots of traveling. Amazing pay. It wrecked my personal life. I could only meet friends and family on weekends, when available.
You’ll get over it
I’m married with kids. It’s a lot to chew on for sure!
I did the whole commute thing from NJ to NY for many years and you couldn’t pay me enough to do that and waste 4 hours of my day for this.
I had a 1.5 - 2 hour commute and er it’s nice to have a social life and not be tired all the time. Can you move closer or at least do hybrid wfh?
Being in office more often to start is a good instinct, but think about an alternative strategy of simply being mindful of and aligning with the days your key stakeholders are in office. It’s no use being in the office 3 or 4 days a week when your stakeholders are all or mostly out 1 or 2 of those days, nor is it a good look to be in the office but exhausted from your commute! Your excitement and eagerness for the new job is admirable and palpable, but channel it in the right way lest it wear off too quickly.
About where you are now. 26 miles each way in the Seattle area. When I bought my house my commute was 40 mins. After 5 years it was an hour. After ten years it was almost always 90-120 minutes.
I quit after 15 years.
Huge pay cut to go remote, but I have time and a much better quality of life.
From El Centro California to San Diego California.
With how I drove it it was about an hour and a half drive if there was really bad traffic it was a two to three hour drive.
Personally for me it wasn't worth it compared to other offers I had in my actual area It was about a $25,000 pay raise but I was putting 300+ miles on my car daily and my interactions with CHP increased with meant more tickets and traffic stops.
Factoring in the cost of gas/ increased maintenance cost/ fine & fees that 25k raise was really only a 10k raise.... And that wasn't worth the stress and decreased time with my loved ones.
EY1 For the life of me honestly I cannot remember. I wasn't employed there for long that driver was ridiculous in a round of about 3 months I was over it getting up at 4:00 a.m. to get to work at 7:00 😂😂
But it was some insurance company it was in downtown San Diego was on a giant hill and the only other thing I remember about that company was they insured the construction company that built the new stadium and the only reason I remember that is cuz they kept talking about it
I used to do 1 hr each way and hated it. You'll do 4hrs a day, in a week, 20hr. In a month, about 80 hrs. To be honest, I wouldn't take your job even if comp was 500k. I value my time more than I value money.
I’ll take a different position.
I’d say only 2 days of drive and an additional day off on Friday is not too bad. 2 days of working in the office will “cost” you 8 hours of total drive time. It’s like you working “in office” work with 5-day week, where commute is 48 min one way (I spread the 8h drive across 5 day week), but in your current job, one you’re also getting an extra day off. Not bad at all.
How much are you wasting on your commute in regards to gas/car ware or public transportation? 4 hours a day is 20 hours a week. I would try to be as productive as you can on your commute. That’s 1,000+ hours just in a single year. You’re basically working 150% and only getting paid for 100%. NJ commutes are only that long if you don’t live close to your place of work or commute to NYC. Try listening to audiobooks or something productive. I would never go over a 1 hour commute one way with normal traffic. I could never give that much of my time up for free.
12 minutes for me
I took a role driving from Houston the Austin daily 3 hour trips one way, but it was a mid six figure job with stock options. It wasn't bad i just had to adjust my sleep patterns to make sure I got more than enough rest to stay alert. For the two months I drove daily after that I rented a room from a private home owner, stayed in Austin five days, drove home on the Fridays.
This is an excellent response!
Everyone is different and you have to adjust for what you think is right for you and your family. Everyone has to decide how much of a sacrifice they are willing to make and for how long, and what is the pot of gold at the end of the rainbow going to look at. Know that it won't always be a sacrifice. Things will get better later.
Key questions- How are you traveling and do you have a partner or kids? If you’re flying solo and not driving it’s doable. Get a productive hobby that you can work on for 4 hours a day or get an advanced degree…
My longest commute was 1:45 each way driving. Longest 1 way was 3:35 minutes given
I had an hour commute one way riding the subway I gave up the job after 3 months.
Work from home. No commute. After the time change I can head out for a few hours of fishing after work instead of commuting.
Most I have done in my career so far was an hour one way in Chicago. I lived in the city but worked in the suburbs. I did this for 8yrs. So that was approximately 4,160 hrs I spent in my car. I never really considered the time spent in commute until my wife brought to my attention when I took a different job. My biggest regret is during those hours I never added value to myself. I could have learned multiple languages or learned other aspects to better myself during that time. You know the person you are since you have to do the job. Other than money, will you find joy? will you strengthen your health and well-being? is the time spent during commute adding value to you and your family? Where do you value your time the most? Does a better version of you come out of this opportunity? In my opinion these are things I would consider when reflecting on my past experience.
What OP doesn’t share which might change a lot of responses here, is the hybrid option this job has. It’s buried somewhere in a response which mentions 2 days onsite ; 2WFH & Fridays off. Sort of balances out the commute IMO, although I wouldn’t do it LOL. GL OP and I hope your passion is long-lived.
Do let us know what you decide 😉
If it's a commute where you can take some of your leisure time during - cycling (some of the way, combined with a train or bus) reading etc on a train, AND ACTUALLY FEEL THE LEISURE TIME, then you might be ok with this long term. If not, I doubt it.
If you're driving, DEFINITELY not. My driving instructor said if you aren't tired after 2 hours of driving, you weren't paying proper attention. You can't afford to be consistently arriving at work tired, and you definitely can't afford to not pay enough attention during the drive to not arrive tired, you might not arrive at all.
I try to stay within a 1 hour drive limit from my home unless the position is fully remote then I'll work from the beach in Bora Bora