What is your definition of “underwater”? As in number of hours

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It’s not about hours, IMO. It’s about I’m on too many deals so have 3 8-hour projects that all need to happen in the next 8 hours. It doesn’t matter how much sleep I sacrifice in that scenario, someone’s going to be disappointed.

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For me, it is anything above 45 billable hours/week, especially since I am on too many deals/matters occurring at the same time with competing deadlines. Just like C1 above, no matter what I do, someone is going to be disappointed.

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I like this. They are making plenty of money on me at 45 hours and I don’t want underwater to mean every waking moment (70+ billed). But some people can just work more if they want.

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It’s whatever you want it to mean. Whenever you don’t want to work anymore you are underwater. You don’t need permission from others to set your own limit.

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For me, 70-100 hours/week is underwater, 50-60 is at capacity, and in the 40s or less I’m bored and looking for work

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AA2 - I totally agree with you and people with shady billing ethics annoy me so much because I’ve actually, truly billed several 100 hour weeks before where I was actually working for all those house. It’s always when there are major things happening in 3 or 4 of my matters all at the same time, and I’m barely sleeping/eating and not doing anything besides work. People shouldn’t be sitting around doing nothing waiting for comments (your example), billing it, and calling it a busy week lol

I think you’re definitely underwater if you’re on track to hit north of 2400 by the year end.

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