What's the best luxury points hotel in Kyoto? Deciding between the Suiran Kyoto and the Ritz.

Current Titanium member, so considerations are service, hard product quality, location, and elite recognition. TIA!

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In Kyoto they may consider recognition but it seems in the US Marriott does not care what your status is.
Titanium for life and Ambassador but my experience is most Marriott properties in the US have forgotten that they are a service industry.

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Sadly I've found that to be true as well 😢

haven’t stayed at either (i did the ritz in osaka and took the train to kyoto), but the kyoto ritz is apparently one of the top ritz properties, right up there with hong kong.

fwiw the osaka one is dope and they even upgraded me to a corner suite.

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Have stayed in the Suiran and it was absolutely beautiful/wonderful experience. But a little out of the way.

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Typically, rule of thumb is with JW and Ritz you'll get more of a consistent hard product whereas with Autograph, Luxury, and Tribute, you'll get a more avant garde and localized experience. I've found in asia, your more mainline brands tend to recognize status and reward it more often whereas the more boutique brands tend to have a higher quality baseline product.

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Ritz

Done that already. Awesome experience!

If you can get a Suite upgrade at the Suiran it’s a no brainer. You’ll have your own private outdoor onsen/backyard which I don’t think the Ritz offers. It’s a little out of the city, but Arashiyama is beautiful and has tons of things to do (monkey park, bamboo forest)

I stayed at the Westin couple of times, and found it really nice!

Ritz in Kyoto is my favourite hotel in the world. The spa 🥰

Suiran of course

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